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| Topic Started: May 29 2013, 11:54:54 AM (1,077 Views) | |
| A mean old man | May 29 2013, 11:54:54 AM Post #1 |
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THE ARRIVAL The Kelssek Arena was once again crowded with members of The East Pacific, murmuring anxiously and craning their necks to see the dark, empty stage in front of them. They had been gathered there by a mysterious and rather vague telegram which had only stated, after its invitation, that "GRANDEUR RETURNS." Some had no idea what this cryptic statement meant. Others had hunches. Only a few minutes passed after the people of TEP had taken their seats before searchlights glared down from the sky, blinding them momentarily before their eyes adjusted to the white sheen that bored into them from above. An enormous golden zeppelin floated above them, a low hum emitting from its engines. A deep horn blasted thrice, announcing the imminent appearance of their mysterious guest. But he was not a guest at all. A hatch in the bottom of the cabin opened, lowering a platform on chains; upon it stood, in his EPSA uniform and with the black and blue robes of a NPO Senator clutched tightly in his right hand, the esteemed AMOM (formerly known as TEP Delegate Topdop). As he descended, he cast the robes into the air and they dropped heavily to the stage below, their sleeves fluttering wildly. A loud clang echoed through the stadium as the metalwork of the robes landed on the ground fifty feet below their former owner. Slowly, his platform reached the stage and he stepped off it and towards the microphone. The audience was silent. The former EPSA Field Marshal bellowed into the microphone: "I HAVE RETURNED!" The audience erupted into roaring applause. Men shouted. Women cried and screamed. Old men clasped their hands together and nodded their heads slowly. A vuvuzela honked. "What was that?" The Field Marshal spun around and his wild eyes widened almost unnaturally. The stadium quieted down. "What the fuck was that?" He turned back and called to some soldiers standing nearby. They climbed onstage. He had a hushed conversation with them and pointed in the direction of the sound. They nodded curtly and trotted off towards that area of the stadium. He cleared his throat. “It has been months, my friends, though my hiatus was necessary. As I journeyed the world beyond I came to further appreciate the beauty of the East and the true honor of its people. I witnessed further the corruption of the weaseling 'cosmopolitan.' I saw GCR governments overthrown and regions descend into turmoil. As the world around me was consumed by chaos, I dreaded what I might find in the fatherland of TEP. Yet behold: when I set foot on the earth of the East again, I found not rubble nor revolution nor overwhelming torpor, but the same strong, active region that I helped to revive during my six-month term which began approximately one year ago. AMOM paced to the side of the stage and brushed his beard with his hand. "Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for the rest of the GCRs." He paused. The audience held its breath as he stood motionless for a few seconds. "This must change." He turned towards them. "As returning delegate of The East Pacific, I will see to it that burned bridges are rebuilt, that our great region continues along its path to prosperity unhindered, and that the true enemies of TEP and of the GCRs as an interregional community are crushed into the dirt." FOREIGN AFFAIRS "The delegate is directly responsible for the image of the region. This means he must engage in constant, direct, and productive conversation with those within the region and those outside of it. Most important, in my opinion, is his ability to serve the interests of those within The East Pacific, though second to this duty is undoubtedly his ability to keep the region relevant on the global stage and to build for TEP the connections and friendships abroad that it needs to function optimally. I am, of course, talking about foreign affairs." He cleared his throat and continued. "When I was delegate I began the creation of an extensive foreign affairs initiative, which inevitably crumbled during my absence. Todd kept me in charge of the project, yes, though I experienced much more difficulty maintaining it when I was not head of FA in TEP and not viewed as such abroad. The goal of this project, the "No Frontiers Project," was to maintain active foreign relations with as many sizeable regions as possible, to maintain a steady output of updates to keep our friends abroad informed, and to thus make The East Pacific an interregional center of diplomacy. If elected I will eventually return my focus to this project, though more pressing matters must be handled first." "TEP has been maintaining a large host of ambassadors tasked with posting updates in our embassies within the forums of foreign regions. I valued and still do value their assistance highly, though I found that this was a very inefficient way of handling such a process. It is silly to spread such a singular duty between half a dozen people or more and to have to clean up after those that go inactive while simultaneously keeping track of their inactivity and worrying about replacements should they fail to return to their posts. As delegate I will scrap this system and simply post all updates myself. There is no need to do things this way." "This is not to say that I regard FA as a one-man job, however. It is not. I will thus be assembling a team of secretaries to work in very specific areas such as treaty-writing and 'embassy dynamics' (which will involve scouting for active regions that TEP might consider trading embassies with or making note of regions that are tied to enemies such as GGR and determining whether they should be negotiated with or engaged forcefully). This team will be heavily involved in the FA process and will advise the delegate on decisions regarding it." "Finally there is the ideal of feeder unity." The audience murmurs as they hear the last two words. "Yes, I am aware of the recent events which have disrupted our neighbors and pitted former friends against each other. But my goal remains and I will do everything within my power to return order to our realm and to pull the GCRs together again, despite what has happened within The South Pacific and its effects on the neighboring states. Feeder unity is not an archaic principle. Is this a tall order? Yes, indeed it is. More so than it was when I originally accepted this challenge as I helped build the MPA. But I will not relent, and I will work with our friends abroad to see that the GCRs once again collaborate in order to move forward together in their unique niche. I will elaborate further on this momentarily and then continue with my speech, however I will now pause to allow for questions and digestion of what I have said." He stepped back from the microphone and crossed his hands behind his back, gazing out at the audience expectantly. Edited by A mean old man, May 29 2013, 11:55:11 AM.
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| Mr_Administrator | May 29 2013, 01:11:16 PM Post #2 |
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Point of order, AMOM, should you be elected, will you be using your puppet state of Topdop to run things, or will you use AMOM proper as delegate? |
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| A mean old man | May 29 2013, 01:52:34 PM Post #3 |
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"I plan to use AMOM this time as delegate, as there is no longer any need for it to remain in The Pacific. It is currently my WA nation in TEP and holds 60 endorsements." |
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| Old Federalia | May 29 2013, 02:41:14 PM Post #4 |
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You were down right rude to me as the ambassador of a little region known as Atrigeas. True character shines when in such lopsided circumstances. Therefore, I think other people would better represent TEP. Your thoughts? Also, how would feeder unity benefit us? Sounds like a club and userites aren't invited. No thanks, userites are people, too. Your thoughts? |
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| A mean old man | May 29 2013, 02:56:50 PM Post #5 |
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"Please jog my memory. I do not remember this interaction."
"Feeder unity would benefit TEP as well as the other feeders involved. As I said, the feeder regions inhabit similar niches and face similar security threats that would often be more appropriately and efficiently dealt with by the feeders collectively rather than through support from UCRs. The feeders cannot afford to be pitted against each other as some of them are when they are so fundamentally similar. Also, 'feeder unity' is an ideal revolving around collaboration between the GCRs, not a 'club.' The closest thing that could have been compared to a 'club' regarding the unity ideal was the MPA, and that was dissolved months ago." |
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| Ramaeus | May 29 2013, 04:33:57 PM Post #6 |
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Do you have any plans to increase activity in TEP and on the forums? |
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| Old Federalia | May 29 2013, 05:30:34 PM Post #7 |
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Atrigeas-TEP interaction, abbreviated but substantiated: *March 11th: Atrigeas applied for an embassy* Todd: We'll get back to you... *April 29th* PUT: So? AMOM: "I have been elected the new delegate of TEP; give me a few days to review this and I will get back to you here." *May 9th* PUT: So? *May 29th* AMOM: I'll approve your request if you agree not to attempt to recruit government members in the future. PUT: Oops, sorry (I sent a TG to your nation Topdot because it appeared in TEP's list of nations, how was I supposed to know it was the delegate-elect's nation?) AMOM: I'm willing to overlook it as a fluke. Embassy in-game and off-site accepted. Once I'm delegate, I'll accept your in-game embassy request. *Forum embassy created, name spelt wrong* *March 13, a vizier became delegate unintentionally* PUT: Could you accept the in-game embassy if you're not too busy? AMOM: Once I'm delegate. *June 24th--You're delegate at this time* PUT: So? AMOM: "I may have to get back to you on this one; I've been planning to edit the system for acquiring in-game embassies (seeing as one doesn't actually exist currently, which I find odd)." PUT: You already accepted our request. AMOM: Oh okay... *July 24th--Atrigeas delegate was inactive and had to be replaced* *Embassy request in-game sent, but denied* PUT: Why did you do that? AMOM: Send it again. *Embassy request in-game accepted* Summary: Atrigeas waited for months (March 11th to July 24th), was made to apologize because it manually recruited your nation unintentionally, and was told we had to re-apply after the request was already accepted. Then the in-game request was denied and we had to send it again. As the ambassador, I was pissed off. As a TEPer, I think that was funny as hell and we should do that to noobs more often. However, is that what we really want for our region, the worst foreign affairs of the 42 regions I've been to as an ambassador?
First, a didn't mean an actual club or organization. I mean like a cliche or a social group which excludes userites. Second, the episode in TSP showed that feeder unity is no different than unity with UCRs. The Pacific is the champion of feeder unity, it started the MPA which you referred to. However, when Milograd went rogue, it decided not to get involved, stating it was an internal TSP matter despite the hordes of userites coming to Milo's aid. I think they secretly wanted Milograd to stay WAD. Regardless, this shows that feeder unity breaks down as soon as the aims of one pacific differs from those of another. Therefore, feeder unity is a pipe dream since people are people no matter what region they are from, and will betray you like any other person. Also, it is a fact that the combined might of all the feeders' armies could not stand up to a small number of UCR armies. This is especially true since most feederite soldiers belong to one or more userite armies. How could relying only feeder armies be more efficient than having a pact with UCRs? Further, how are feeders fundamentally similar? The only similarities are founderlessness and the flow of new nations. Each pacific is very unique. Each government is different and the base of activity is different. We would do better to focus on other RP regions, since the other pacifics are lacking in RP. Their activity stems from gameplay and spam. Do you disagree? |
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| A mean old man | May 29 2013, 07:33:58 PM Post #8 |
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The former Field Marshal furrowed his brow. "Frankly, UCRs are not my primary concern when it comes to FA. If that offends you, so be it. I did not respond to your FA request for two months after I became delegate because I was working to dig the region out of the terrible state it was in when I assumed my position (which I later addressed here). Establishing an embassy with a tiny UCR was hardly at the top of my to-do list when TEP was slowly deteriorating despite all of the efforts made by myself and by the few officials that remained to draw activity from people in-game (and I absolutely refused to resort to the weak and corrupt "cosmopolitan" method, which would have been to bring in colleagues from outside of the region to populate its government). I made time for Atrigeas and for FA in general when internal affairs were no longer a serious concern, as was the right decision. This was also around the time I began the No Frontiers Project." "...and honestly. If someone deems it 'rude' that I become agitated when they attempt to recruit the delegate-elect while simultaneously seeking embassies with the region, they can bite me. My response to that was not at all unreasonable, and could have been far less hospitable and forgiving. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, as was appropriate considering your inexperience at the time."
"The Pacific's recent FA activities, which I may address in more detail later and which have dismayed me thoroughly since I returned to the feeders, are an anomaly that can be corrected should the region get back on the right track in the near future. No enmity need remain permanent. From what I have learned, poor etiquette was practiced by both members of TP's NPO and TSP's Coalition during that incident, and regions do not need to maintain lingering hostility as a result of the actions of individuals within them. In due time, I believe that their differences can be worked out, with the necessary agreements and concessions being made by both parties. Neither is likely to make those yet. Yet." "As for feeder armies, yes, most are currently fairly small and I blame much of this on the 'cosmopolitan' poaching that has, as you noted, resulted in dual membership in a number of armies and thus weakened the devotion of a number of solders to their GCR homes. However, I have watched both TPA and EPSA grow very rapidly lately (not due to "cosmopolitan" politics, mind you} and believe that this trend must be pounced on now before we risk losing soldiers and interest due to inactivity. There are many WA nations in the GCRs and there is much potential to prosper as a result of the feeder situation. I will address my ideas for the military in more detail soon." "Each feeder is very unique. Each feeder also faces the same threat of invasion by certain UCRs, unendorsement campaigns carried out usually by masked foreigners, coups by rogue delegates, the struggle for maintaining and growing local activity, and various other things that have plagued almost every GCR for the decade they have existed in. TEP should acquire RPer friends, yes (though you ignore that many RPers do not want to RP outside of their regions), but it should focus also on bringing together the regions that it shares struggles with so that they may prosper together as a result of collaboration and understanding support. We need allies who know our situation and share our tribulations before we look for help from further abroad." "So yes. I do disagree." |
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| A Slanted Black Stripe | May 29 2013, 08:41:56 PM Post #9 |
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Clothed in a simple tunic and sandals, the old man with an unkempt beard and unruly gray hair, stepped up to the microphone. As recognition of the old specimen spread through the crowd, men and women whispered to one another, shaking their heads. "I thought he was dead." Unlike the wild applause, shouting, and screaming which had welcomed AMOM, ASBS was greeted with quiet stares. Then the vuvuzela honked and the attendees giggled. "Is that Biyah back there?" ASBS asked. He searched the room for the horn player. "Field Marshall AMOM, I have a few questions for you." ASBS pulled a scrap of paper out of his pocket and set his reading spectacles on the end of his nose. "This robe," said ASBS, as he pointed at the discarded clothing on the stage. "Has it been tossed aside as a sign that you are resigning from your role as a Senator in the NPO? Are you dedicating your time to The East Pacific, regardless of whether you are elected Delegate or not?" Reaching again into his pocket, ASBS produced a leaflet and held it out to AMOM. "This is your publication, The Foreign Farce. In it, you state that citizenship should be limited to those nations who are WA member nations within the region or have a WA nation serving abroad for the benefit of the region." ASBS paused and pulled a flask from his pocket and took a sip. Someone in the crowd whispered, "How big is that pocket? Where does he keep all that stuff?" "I apologize," ASBS said, "I am of poor health and need medication if I speak too long." Putting the flask back in his pocket, he continued, "Is it your intention to change the conditions of citizenship in the Concordat to only WA nations?" Once again, ASBS reached into his pocket and held aloft a Nazi swastika. "I am finding this crap all over the region." With a surprisingly quick flick of the wrist, he threw it at AMOM and it clattered to a stop at the boots of the massive Field Marshall. "What are you going to do to eliminate this hateful detritus?" "Lastly, you speak of feeder unity." ASBS reached for his pocket, paused, and then shook his head. "You speak of working relentlessly to make this happen. Doesn't this need to be a project among all the nations of the feeders? If only a few individuals get involved, it will only last as long as those few are active." Then ASBS paused and waited for AMOM to respond. Edited by A Slanted Black Stripe, May 29 2013, 08:44:16 PM.
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| Old Federalia | May 29 2013, 09:07:19 PM Post #10 |
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Bite you? Seriously? Wow. If you don't want people to confront you with your past, don't run for election. In fact, you made it a point that, if elected, you would use your main as delegate, not a puppet. Why? To avoid confusion? What you said is actually ironic. You called Atrigeas tiny, yet it was more active than TEP at the time and it didn't have new nations spawning into it. Further, you complain about adspam and delegate security, yet that's really why people join UCRs: for an ad-free RMB and a secure delegacy/foundership. How can you diminish UCR regions if you seek the same thing as them? People are people no matter what region they belong to, and they all deserve to be treated with respect. I'd like TEP's delegate to believe that. Now concerning other RP regions. You made feeder unity sound like it would instantly benefit us, but the only benefit you can point to--mutual defense--is a flop. Perhaps in the future, yes, a mutual defense pact would be good for TEP, but does TEP need to focus on that? No, we need to encourage our RPers to participate in the government for a more representative government that would promote RP in a self-perpetuating cycle. How about looking for greener pastures elsewhere? You stated that I "ignore that many RPers do not want to RP outside of their regions." Who said I want RPers to come here? No way, those smelly RPers need to stay out of our forum! In my experience (which is majorly about region-to-region cooperation), RPers don't give a rat's ass which region they are in. They care about RPing with their nation according to their own rules. What I was talking about was just doing your "FOREIGN AFFAIRS" in RP regions, not just regions that would profit your anti-GGR/pro-feeder agenda. Since our resources are RPers, why not send one of our RPers as an ambassador to an RP UCR. Then after some IC and OOC negotiating, both regions can IC trade on a region-to-region scale, as if each region was a single IC nation. Wouldn't that turn our RP base into an effective FA base? Would IC trading be the ultimate goal? Of course not, but it's a stepping stone to turning our RPers into gameplayers, and it's just an idea. So, there would be immediate benefits to our region by focusing on RP regions along with regions of your choice. Why would you, as delegate, seek to limit us and move us away from our roots as RPers? Edited by Old Federalia, May 29 2013, 09:09:57 PM.
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| A mean old man | May 29 2013, 09:28:14 PM Post #11 |
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The former Field Marshal's glare redirected itself as the sound of the vuvuzela squawked to the old man standing among the other East Pacificans before him. He recognized the man to be ASBS, with whom he had been communicating via hastily scrawled messages mailed to the Magisterium as he was in hostile territory fighting for the EPSA.
"I do plan to resign as NPO Senator within the next few days as the statement of casting aside my robes implies. There are right now a few last things there that I would like to see through and some final arrangements I plan to make. These will not delay my inevitable resignation for much longer."
"This is, in fact, among the reasons I am forfeiting my position in the NPO, though honorable citizenship has been granted to me there. I do strongly believe that true activity stems from within a region and not through a puppet government filled with foreigners and with secret agendas that makes a mockery of GCR democracy. This is, for example, something that I believe The North Pacific has experienced in the past, though which the region appears to have recovered from (judging by the strong local presence in its government today). I do believe it reasonable to grant honorary citizenship to those who divide their time between only a couple regions and/or whose careers in TEP have not been tainted by their involvement elsewhere, but only very, very sparingly."
"That it is, with the potential for exceptions being made through the involvement of the legislature and Conclave. Though that would all be much easier done were I in the Magisterium; I believe, however, that my services are needed as delegate and in this position I will propose such changes and only hope that the Magisterium agrees with me. It must be the will of the region to follow this path."
The Field Marshal started as the symbol landed at his feet. He quickly reacted by stamping it into a multitude of pieces. "That," he declared, "is how I plan to eliminate this blight upon our home. The EPSA is capable of eliminating the embassies of the scum that do this to us abroad and I will continue to support their efforts as well as seek the contribution of GCR allies who are equally fed up with the Nazi plague. I will also strip them of their embassies through more conniving tactics such as offering a TEP embassy in return for the closure of a GGR embassy. Once we are strong enough we will attack these Nazis closer to home where it will effect them with more gravity; even if their defenses are strong, we will disrupt their politics time and time again until they beg us on their knees to relent. Even then we shall show them no mercy. We will chase them to the ends of the earth until they fall off its edge and into oblivion. They have mocked us and disregarded our laws for long enough. It is time to strike back with force and return to the sender the disruption and agitation they have spawned in our region."
"Indeed it does, and so far only a few individuals have been loudly dedicated to this cause. It is my intent, through active, productive FA and military collaboration with our GCR allies and through the creation of a new area of our University (which I will explain in more depth as I continue with my speech) that will unite those dedicated to the growth and sovereignty of their home regions in discussion, to grow this group and expand awareness of the ideal." Edited by A mean old man, May 29 2013, 09:49:11 PM.
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| Mr_Administrator | May 29 2013, 09:38:09 PM Post #12 |
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In an unusual breach of his silence, Mr. Administrator stood up, eyes (and rifle sights) locked on AMOM, and interrupted, "Hold on, what's this now about only permitting WA nations and regional government members citizenship in the Concordat?" He paused a moment to take a puff of his cigar and resumed, "Does this only apply to new members, or do you intend to draft some sort of grandfather clause to permit current non-WA citizens to retain citizenship?" In a rather ungraceful moment, he then swore as hot cigar ash landed on his arm. Edited by Mr_Administrator, May 29 2013, 09:40:03 PM.
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| A mean old man | May 29 2013, 09:46:26 PM Post #13 |
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"As usual, you take my quote out of context. I am not about to apologize for delaying relations after your recruitment message. Feel free to confront me about my past, but don't expect me to make a concession when one is not necessary or when discussing a situation that was not ideal but that I handled as best I could what with the circumstances. It was not preferable that FA be addressed so late in my term. As I said, however, there were more important things to deal with first."
"I seek similarly respected conditions which many UCRs (very openly, at times) attempt to undermine. The other GCRs are in similar situations and can respect and understand the feeder condition more than many UCRs can. I've seen a large number of UCRs look for embassies with TEP not to maintain beneficial relations with us but simply for the purpose of putting their name on a feeder region's page. Many UCRs are not like this, but I concern myself with GCR politics before UCR politics simply out of principle. And Atrigeas at the time was a tiny UCR. It's not a degrading statement, it is a matter of fact. TEP was concerned with what was happening within TEP and had little time for relations with even large UCRs or other GCRs during that period."
"I do believe that. I'm just far more concerned with the well-being of people from TEP than I am with that of the people of other regions, to be blunt."
The former delegate smirks. "Am I not doing that now? This is a confusing melding of gameplay and roleplay, and yet it is potentially the sort of thing to interest roleplayers in the functions of our government. Perhaps we should be speaking in this fashion more often. We could act the role of gameplayers but be a little less stressed by asserting and defending our positions as we play our own characters." The air shimmers as the fourth wall weakened. "Oh, stop that." The air returned to normal. "As for roleplaying, it is not my area. Nor should it necessarily be the area of the delegate, as his duties are primarily gameplay-related. I would like to see more involvement from TEP's roleplayers, though, and will see who I can get in touch with to make that happen."
"You must not stray too far from International Incidents. I am thinking of regions such as Europe and Haven: RPer regions that are serious about RPing but very involved in their idiosyncratic RPing worlds. And I would not curse TEPers by sending them to II. That would be cruel."
"The former is an idea that could be employed in the future. Something similar was discussed during the early days of the No Frontiers Project, though nothing became of it. As for turning RPers into GPers ... well, there's usually a reason that the former isn't the latter. Many of them do not want to participate in NS gameplay." The fourth wall becomes steadily weaker. AMOM turns around and fires his IC laser at it to reseal the dimensional rift.
"Did you ever see me say that or are you putting words in my mouth? I want to move forward in particular areas but do not at all seek to stifle such things as RPing in TEP. Simply because I am not a RPer does not mean that I advocate for its abandonment." The fourth wall suddenly collapsed. The air in the arena split open and everyone was sucked into the void and torn into a thousand pieces. Fortunately, an alternate universe was extant in which this had not happened, and everyone is still safe and sound in the Kelssek Arena with their entrails still held firmly inside of their body cavities. Edited by A mean old man, May 29 2013, 09:53:04 PM.
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| A mean old man | May 29 2013, 09:51:59 PM Post #14 |
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| A Slanted Black Stripe | May 30 2013, 02:26:53 AM Post #15 |
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"Excuse me." The gray-haired one, known as ASBS, said as he reached in his pocket, once again. He retrieved a polished stone statue of a dolphin. He "placed" it in the air at eye level and it began to "swim" around his head. "What manner of strange magic is this?" asked a young women sitting near the old sage. ASBS smiled at her. "It is very old and enchanted. A wizard named Kandarin gave it to me many years ago." ASBS snapped his fingers and the dolphin began to swim toward the great Field Marshall, leaping high in the air. "It is truly old, not like that young troublemaker you have running around this region who goes by the name, Old Fiddlesticks, or something similar." ASBS looked back at the young woman. "You remind me of ... Edea." He paused and wiped a tear from his cheek and said, "Never mind. We need to move on." "AMOM, look at this dolphin!" It was now circling the former delegate's large head. "Do you recall Free Pacific States? Do you recall what gifts they have given to this region? Do you recall the great wizard, Kandarin?" ASBS reached into the pocket, retrieved the flask, and took another sip. "AMOM,"he said with renewed vigor, "would you deny citizenship in The East Pacific to both Pacific Free States and Kandarin if they did not have WA nations in the region?" And then ASBS stomped his foot and the dolphin disappeared from the orbit about AMOM's head and reappeared in ASBS' hand. ASBS put the dolphin back in his pocket and glared at AMOM, awaiting a response. Edited by A Slanted Black Stripe, May 30 2013, 10:12:05 AM.
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| A mean old man | May 30 2013, 03:38:21 PM Post #16 |
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AMOM frowned as the statuette encircled his sizable (but necessarily so) head. It distracted him for a minute before he addressed the old man's question. "Would I deny citizenship to FPS and Kandarin? No. But were a Constitutional amendment passed that enacted the system I have proposed, it would not be within my abilities as delegate to either grant or deny them this. The Magisterium and Conclave, which would undoubtedly remember the contributions of such individuals to TEP's government, would most likely grant them honorary citizenship here were their WA nations not present." |
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| East Malaysia | Jun 1 2013, 03:33:12 PM Post #17 |
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When I was a new nation, I didn't have WA (then UN) membership. I didn't know the game nor did I understand the importance. I even joined the government right after I joined this forum. Since then I have served as WAD (or UND) outside of TEP and as of today proudly serve as Vizier to help keep the region safe now that I understand the game and the importance of WA membership. I don't agree that with the idea of only having WA members serve in the government (or getting citizenship? Clarification is needed. If that's the case then I would have more of an issue with that notion). That will end up creating an Oligarchy. Encouraging WA membership I think is the way to go, not requiring it. If you had to make a compromise on it. How would you do so? General Question I will be asking the other Candidates Based on the Concordat, do you believe Viziers should be allowed to serve in different branches of the government? The main reason of the role is regional security but it also puts them in a position where they can become WAD depending on the situation. Depending on your response... If yes: why? If no: what would you do to give that role more things to do? |
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| A mean old man | Jun 2 2013, 11:59:34 AM Post #18 |
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DOMESTIC DEVELOPMENT As the crowd grew slowly quieter, AMOM took this as a cue to continue. "Alright then. Thank you all for your questions; I hope my responses were satisfactory. Now, onward!" He gestured dramatically. "As I stated earlier, the delegate's most important duty is to serve the interests of his constituents and of The East Pacific public in general. As was my policy last term, I will continue to vote in the WA based on the consensus of the populace. I will promptly suppress adspam that violates whichever set of rules is in place at the time and have easy access to NS at all hours of the day from my phone." He pulled out a small device that made the air around it crackle with RP vs. GP confusion. "The East Pacific can always count on me to be active and to announce any upcoming absences preemptively (often only to the government, however, as I am wary of publicly notifying possible enemies of times when they will be able to attack us). I will bring back the dynamic WFE, which many TEPers found amusing and entertaining." He paused to allow the audience to process his statement. "I am also extremely prepared to use this mass-TG feature to its fullest potential. I have wanted such a thing for years and now that it is potentially in my hands I will not fail to make it extremely useful to TEP. I strongly believe that one-on-one contact must be made between the delegate and as many active members of the region as possible to encourage them to become more involved in the functions of the government and/or in the social areas of the forums (or the RMB); in a democratic system such as TEP, the involvement of as many local members of the region as possible is crucial to progress. I also believe that members of the region should be regularly informed of the goings-on in the world of NationStates so that they are thus more aware of the fact that the region and that the world have centralized communities and will be more inclined to participate in them." "Now to answer EM's question: I am also going to use this feature to educate members of the region on the purposes of WA membership, as ideally the region's citizens should have WA nations present within TEP. As far as a compromise goes, I think that this would be the duty of the government that presides over the Concordat to be willing to consider honorary citizenship requests. The wording of the Concordat itself on this subject must be concise and simply interpreted. I am open to hearing opinions on this, though we should save most of our debate on it for when it is brought up and deliberated in the Magisterium's forum." He paused. |
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| A Slanted Black Stripe | Jun 3 2013, 12:20:51 AM Post #19 |
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The old man lifted his arms in the air and erupted into a loud, slow, warbling call. A young man, sitting nearby, covered his ears. In the back of the room, the vuvuzela began to honk. Some small children began to cry. The warbling evolved into a repeated phrase, "Loop, Loop, Loop ..." Eventually, ASBS ran out of breath. He lowered his arms. Took another swig of his medicine and pulled a loop of rope out of his pocket. He handed one end of the loop to the people seated on his right and the other end to those on the left. "Pull and pass it on." He gestured to the audience and soon the loop was being pulled and passed on to people on the both the left and right side. It kept growing and growing. "How can this happen?" asked a young gentleman in a judicial smock. "This is the work of the devil," said another. "Oh, I get it. It's an infinite loop," said a man with well-groomed eyelashes and eyebrows. "Yes." ASBS smiled and pointed at Field Marshall who had been watching with his own eyebrows arched in disbelief. "This is another gift of the wizard, Kandarin. It is a reminder of the roots of our great region." ASBS paused and retrieved the flask for another drink. "I may not be with you much longer." He swallowed. "What will you do to honor 1 Infinite Loop? Why have you not submitted a World Assembly Resolution to honor the founder of our great region?" |
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| A mean old man | Jun 4 2013, 01:47:58 PM Post #20 |
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The Field Marshal frowned at the loop of rope as it wound its way around the stadium. "These tricks and metaphors grow tiresome, old Stripe. Your questions would be easier asked without said sorcery. As for the 1 Infinite Loop, many here are aware of his name, though the details of his delegacy are not well-described in any easily accessible area of our forums. I do plan to see that the University is revived, and we could do with a compendium linking to more detailed articles on the history of our great region. As it stands our University, while it stores more information than those of many other regions, is lacking in substance and organization. Primarily in organization. The Magisterium passed the Education Act, which I personally am not a fan of as it bulks up our government in a way that I believe is unnecessary (the University can be easily managed in a very casual and individual fashion and is more efficiently developed in such a way, in my opinion), though I will be willing to work within its parameters to improve our University's content and design." "As for a World Assembly commendation," he continued, "I would be happy to author such a thing in the future were I aided in the research of the accomplishments of our founding delegate." He gestures towards ASBS. "You seem more than suitable for the job of co-author." |
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| A Slanted Black Stripe | Jun 4 2013, 02:45:49 PM Post #21 |
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"Very well," said ASBS as he nodded at the great Field Marshall. "Let's move forward with questions." "Our current delegate has indicated he will not nominate any new Arbiters for the Conclave, leaving those choices to the newly elected Delegate." ASBS reached in his pocket, looked around the room for the honorable Todd McCloud, and paused. Todd was nowhere to be seen. "So without any gifts from sorcerers, I will simply ask who you will nominate to serve in the Conclave, or lacking specific names, what process will you use to identify those individuals?" ASBS held up his hand. "Before you answer, I have more staffing questions." He grinned. "And while it is tempting, I will not pull a walking stick from my pocket." "You referred to the Education Act, recently enacted. How will you choose a nominee for Chancellor for the University of The East Pacific?" ASBS patted his pocket. "I have a mortarboard in here. We could have had a lot more fun with the education questions." He winked at the Field Marshall. "Earlier you spoke of Foreign Affairs and your plan to do all of the updates alone as Delegate. Does this mean you will continue the practice of the current Delegate and not appoint anyone to the positions of Media Officer or Tourism Officer as provided in the Regional Promotion Officers Act?" ASBS again looked around the room for Todd and noticed a TARDIS far behind on the left hand side. "Please go ahead and answer these as I move back and allow others to speak. I will be listening to your answers." And with a surprising display of speed, ASBS scampered off in the direction of the TARDIS. |
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| A mean old man | Jun 5 2013, 11:37:21 AM Post #22 |
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"Arbiters should be experienced and active. Ideally they should have spent at least a few years in TEP. Among the people I would consider nominating for the position are," AMOM draws a list from his pocket, "oh, look. You're on here. There's also Todd. And that's it." He clears his throat. "Don't know if you'd be interested in the position or if Todd would be. We're short on people in that area right now and there aren't many who are active right now who I believe are qualified to join the Conclave. I also plan to nominate Todd for the position of Vizier again. He served well as a Vizier during my previous term."
"As I am legally bound to appoint said ministers I will do so arbitrarily but not expect them to do anything (as I did during my last term). The positions are archaic and I believe that the Delegate should be able to create ministries and appoint minsters and secretaries as needed to address events and issues as they appear rather than at the command of some outdated legislation. Hopefully that legislation is repealed very soon." |
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| A Slanted Black Stripe | Jun 5 2013, 10:10:49 PM Post #23 |
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ASBS poked his head out from behind the TARDIS and shouted to AMOM, "Yes, yes, Todd is a very good choice for Arbiter and Vizier." The old coot pulled a flashlight from his pocket and shined the beam on one corner of the TARDIS. "Of course, you'll have to find him first," he muttered. "Oh, and thanks for suggesting my name as well." ASBS shook his head. "It's probably not a good idea." Then he laughed in a loud, short burst. "I'd have to leave the Magisterium and I'm having way too much fun annoying the young ones in there to go somewhere else." ASBS moved around the TARDIS, alternatively tapping it with his fist and pausing to listen. He cocked his head to one side like a dog listening for a stealthy cat. As ASBS moved behind the device, out of sight of the Field Marshall and all of the audience, the TARDIS began to rumble and vibrate like an old unbalanced washing machine. Before anyone could leave their seat, the TARDIS vanished with a loud pop, a puff smoke, and a bright flash. As the smoke dispersed, the audience heard a loud fart and a vuvuzela fell from the sky and clattered on the floor. ASBS was gone. |
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| A mean old man | Jun 6 2013, 06:23:28 PM Post #24 |
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Just noting that I've been busy IRL yesterday and today and will be continuing with my campaign and with the debates tomorrow. |
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| A Slanted Black Stripe | Jun 9 2013, 09:54:18 AM Post #25 |
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One of you opponents has raised concerns about Security Council Resolution 109 and would like to see it repealed? Do you agree or disagree and why? |
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| Old Federalia | Jun 9 2013, 10:22:31 AM Post #26 |
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Edited by Old Federalia, Jun 9 2013, 10:25:43 AM.
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| A Slanted Black Stripe | Jun 10 2013, 03:00:07 AM Post #27 |
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One more round of questions: Have you read, "THE NECESSITY OF CHAOS; ORDER AND DISORDER IN NATIONSTATES" (http://w11.zetaboards.com/2012_NS_World_Fair/topic/8247273/1/) Do you agree or disagree with the thesis? If so, why or why not? |
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| A mean old man | Jun 11 2013, 06:09:30 PM Post #28 |
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I'm done with the RP/GP confusion. It was funny last year when I was mocking the idea that I was a dictator, but now I'm just sick of it. In response to the SC109 comment: Half a year ago I would probably have been in strong opposition to SC109. As it stands now, I no longer feel the need to be so stubborn with my ideas of what WASC resolutions should specifically be used for. The goals of "Liberate NAZI EUROPE," unlike the goals of "Liberate Haven," (two resolutions both created for the same purpose - the first I support, the latter I vehemently opposed) are stated honestly in its text, which I find agreeable. I have also come to the conclusion that an absolute no-tolerance policy for Nazism in NationStates should be adopted by all of us who find ourselves in opposition to it; those who would willingly and openly promote an utterly malignant ideology and delude themselves into thinking that it has some sort of legitimate political aspect (Nazism does not; it was founded on race religion and anyone who has bothered to educate themselves on its history should know this) need to be hounded out of their "homes" and chased across the world until they have nowhere left to hide. While NAZI EUROPE has been a pathetic milquetoast ever since OMD resigned there (and yes, I do respect OMD; he was a fantastic NS player who aligned himself with the wrong ideals and came to realize this when he ultimately moved to TEP before CTEing again due to inactivity), its name and legacy still remain. I see no reason not to destroy it. That is all I have to say on that subject. Edited by A mean old man, Jun 11 2013, 06:10:30 PM.
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