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New Magister Candidate: Tim
Topic Started: May 15 2014, 02:38:55 AM (748 Views)
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Tim has taken the Magister's pledge (LINK).

This thread has been created for Magisters and citizens to ask questions of the prospective Magister.

In accordance to the Public Official Disclosure Act, Huntsss created a Public Disclosure Form (LINK).
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Tim, what would you bring to the Magisterium?

I do not believe you have been around TEP long enough to understand and appreciate its' unique qualities. Instead, I surmise you would bring your own version of the right way to do things and support radical change. Can you convince me otherwise?
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What do ya think of any pendin' legislation in the Magisterium?
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Question kind of like OF's.

Why do you want to join the Magisterium?
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May 15 2014, 06:15:15 PM
Question kind of like OF's.

Why do you want to join the Magisterium?
A while back, Todd McCloud told me that if I ever needed a region to quietly retire in that The East Pacific would be a fantastic place for it. I looked at him with a sort of "u wot m8", or as possible as looking at him would be over the internet. After having been involved in The North Pacific, and Osiris, I could not believe that such a GCR existed. This raised my interest in The East Pacific as a region, and I started hanging out in the IRC room and talking to people there.

About a week ago, I was added to the Skype Room and told I had to become a TEP Citizen if I wanted to stay. Giving me no choice, I joined the region. Since then, I've been participating as much as my schedule allows me in various chats and games across the region. However, I didn't really feel productive and,after reading through various threads and places I could get involved in, the Legislative body seemed like the best pick. I've been a Legislator in other regions in the past, and have really enjoyed devoting my time to writing Bills, and helping edit others. I've got a huge interest in Lawmaking and Public Policy IRL, so I guess this makes sense.

Wanting to continue being an active and contributing Citizen within The East Pacific, the Magisterium just seems like the place for me.

I hope that answered your question :)
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Tim, i've seen various scandals regarding you within NS.

If you 'retire' here (and really, no one retires from NS don't kid yourself), will you uphold TEP traditions and life to the best of your ability, and not allow your other tendency(s) to poison our community?
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May 15 2014, 02:43:13 AM
Tim, what would you bring to the Magisterium?

I do not believe you have been around TEP long enough to understand and appreciate its' unique qualities. Instead, I surmise you would bring your own version of the right way to do things and support radical change. Can you convince me otherwise?
I'm hoping that I'll be able to bring activity, dedication, and another fresh mind to add to the Thinktank. Having served on Legislative Bodies both in Nationstates and in various RL Youth Organizations, I've got a fair amount of experience with the Lawmaking process that I hope will let me contribute to creation of Laws aptly.

Right, to start, I'm not Unibot. It seems that you're basically implying that, and I apologize if I'm mistaken. I'm not in The East Pacific to bring my own version of the "right way". Shit, man, I'm not even too solid on my own ideals for this game. Although it's true that I have not spent much time in The East Pacific yet, although I hope to, I've been reading as much as I can and learning all I can about TEP Culture so that I may be able to contribute more to the region as a Citizen. It would be ridiculous of me, being here for less than a month, to start preaching about "the right way" to run things. I think that The East Pacific is a fantastic region, with a very unique culture, and I can't see myself supporting anything "radical" unless I feel it is truly for the betterment of the region (an opinion I would form as objectively as possible, by factors such as input on those issues from senior members of TEP who are more knowledgeable than I). I do hope that I can convince you to change your belief about me, and intend to continue proving and showing that I'm not here as yet another Outside Influence, whether appointed to the Magisterium or not. I doubt that words will be able to speak better than actions in this case, as your opinion about me seems to already be formed.

I hope that answered your question.
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May 15 2014, 04:39:30 AM
What do ya think of any pendin' legislation in the Magisterium?
Yikes, had to read a lot for this one.

Criminal Code - I'm a huge supporter of this. Criminal Codes are good to have.

TNP/TEP Treaty - I couldn't find a vote on this, so not sure if it happened yet or not. I'm a fan of this. Having been involved in TEP a while back, and now seeing how well it's doing from the outside, I can't see any reason why a Mutual Defense Treaty with it would be problematic.

Second Education Act - I've never been in a region with an active University system before, so this is definitely new to me. However, this Bill looks like it has a lot of value to it for TEP. I definitely agree with Bach's comment about the bill that it's nice that it gives freedom to reform and appoint.

Term Limits Amdt - I'm personally very opposed to the idea of term limits, but would have voted Present on this while trying to figure out why, specifically for TEP, Term Limits are believed to be necessary. I think that if there's a good candidate, they should be allowed to run for as long as they want. If people are dissatisfied with them, they can register that by voting against them.

Osiris/TEP Treaty - Very well written, very balanced, and I think that the Osiris Fraternal Order has by now proven that they are both a stable region that is fairly accepting of most people, and also a powerful ally to have.

I hope that answers the question. Did I miss any legislation?
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May 15 2014, 11:10:04 PM
Tim, i've seen various scandals regarding you within NS.

If you 'retire' here (and really, no one retires from NS don't kid yourself), will you uphold TEP traditions and life to the best of your ability, and not allow your other tendency(s) to poison our community?
I blame the media. It's always the media. I'm innocent, I say! INNOCENT!

What I'd define as retiring here would be stopping being active in all places but here. I basically decided in 2011 that when I'm getting old and weary of NS, I'll get really involved in a GCR and live out my days there. I want TEP to be my GCR.

Now to the question: Well, duh. I wouldn't call my charm, charisma, and ability to make Unibot break a keyboard... poison, but that's for you to decide. I'm a TEP Citizen now. I intend to uphold ideals of TEP traditions in life, assuming they're not along the lines of "Let's lynch Tim" or something. Am I a controversial player? Yeah, and I don't mind. I'm a prominent Defender that's pretty involved in the FRA; it's surprising there's not more controversy about me.

But yeah erm, no plans to poison the community here. I don't think I've poisoned any communities yet, and I don't want that on my track record.
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No. I'm satisfied.
Hooray! I'm hoping that's a Good Satisfied and not a Bad Satisfied :P
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There's good and bad satisfaction? ...Is it like cholesterol?
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There's good and bad satisfaction? ...Is it like cholesterol?
Yes, but no. More like caek. All caek is good, but some caek is more good.
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Ah. Thanks for clearin' that up. Truer words were never spoken. Hail caek. o/
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I don't have a vote in this, but I like your answers.
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Are you prepared to authorize military action as in war, even when such action does not reflect your defender ideals?

Or more toughy;

Do you hold tep above your belief in defenderdom, or vice versa?

Should tep conform to a side of r/d or remain independent?
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May 16 2014, 08:42:39 AM
Are you prepared to authorize military action as in war, even when such action does not reflect your defender ideals?

Or more toughy;

Do you hold tep above your belief in defenderdom, or vice versa?

Should tep conform to a side of r/d or remain independent?
There are many Defenders out there who recognize Military Action in a Wartime situation as justified. My personal issue with Raiding, for example, comes with unjustified raiding. There's plenty of situations in which I could see a Raid being justified. I acknowledge that it is, at times, necessary and would authorize military action were it to come to those levels of a conflict.

I hold them on two different levels, separate from each other. I care about Defending, and regional sovereignty, and I do also care about The East Pacific. I would like to think that I don't have to hold either above the other because they don't conflict for me. I have no plans on trying to make the EPSA barred from invading, or something ridiculous like that. Furthermore, and this is going into the next question as well, I believe that a region should not be subjected to an R/D alignment unless a supermajority of the region support it, or the government is built around it. In the cases of the PRL and the OFO, for example, both are built around one R/D ideology. However, it is to my knowledge that EPSA retains its independent status and continues to do whichever operations they like.

If you doubt my belief that GCR Militaries should remain independent, unless aforementioned conditions, feel free to check both the TNP forum and the old Osiris forum. I spent time advocating for both a Bi-Gameplayer North Pacific Army, and while Sobek of the Osiris Medjai Guard fought to keep it able to do both Raiding and Defending (which was very difficult, as I was also serving as a UDL Lieutenant at the time, but I did it!). Under myself, and my predecessors Earth and St. George, the Medjai Guard was the most active GCR military in terms of Raider activities.
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I don't have a vote in this, but I like your answers.
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May 15 2014, 11:13:51 PM
[I'm hoping that I'll be able to bring activity, dedication, and another fresh mind to add to the Thinktank. Having served on Legislative Bodies both in Nationstates and in various RL Youth Organizations, I've got a fair amount of experience with the Lawmaking process that I hope will let me contribute to creation of Laws aptly.

Right, to start, I'm not Unibot. It seems that you're basically implying that, and I apologize if I'm mistaken. I'm not in The East Pacific to bring my own version of the "right way". Shit, man, I'm not even too solid on my own ideals for this game. Although it's true that I have not spent much time in The East Pacific yet, although I hope to, I've been reading as much as I can and learning all I can about TEP Culture so that I may be able to contribute more to the region as a Citizen. It would be ridiculous of me, being here for less than a month, to start preaching about "the right way" to run things. I think that The East Pacific is a fantastic region, with a very unique culture, and I can't see myself supporting anything "radical" unless I feel it is truly for the betterment of the region (an opinion I would form as objectively as possible, by factors such as input on those issues from senior members of TEP who are more knowledgeable than I). I do hope that I can convince you to change your belief about me, and intend to continue proving and showing that I'm not here as yet another Outside Influence, whether appointed to the Magisterium or not. I doubt that words will be able to speak better than actions in this case, as your opinion about me seems to already be formed.

I hope that answered your question.
Thank you for answering my questions thoroughly.

I am not implying you are Unibot. When Unibot became a citizen, I immediately and publicly informed him that I knew his tactics and would not be swayed by any manner of flattery or affection. In fact, during the week he secretly lobbied TEP to turn defender, my laptop was broken. Perhaps I could have provided a counter argument and stopped it before nearly everyone signed the petition.

You, however, I invited to become a citizen. I have known you longer than most of my fellow regionmates have played NS. I would say I know you as well as I knew Unibot. I believe you are pragmatic and listen to reason.

My concern is this: Are you a feederite or a userite?

In my own opinion, without regard to conventional thought, and as a philosophical theory instead of a quantitative fact, a feederite believes in a strong executive and accountability to the in-game region. A userite believes in a strong legislature and accountability to the off-site forum.

I believe TEP balances a strong executive with a strong legislature and a strong judiciary--the only GCR to maintain such a balance. That balance is delicate, esp. at this present moment when the Magisterium is undergoing a Constitutional Convention.

Further, I believe the Delegate has an elected mandate, and should be accountable to the electorate, not the Magisterium. (This does not preclude being answerable to the Magisterium for ethical behavior.) The Concordat sets out the government of TEP to force the three branches to work together. No branch should dominate or bully another.
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Thank you for answering my questions thoroughly.

I am not implying you are Unibot. When Unibot became a citizen, I immediately and publicly informed him that I knew his tactics and would not be swayed by any manner of flattery or affection. In fact, during the week he secretly lobbied TEP to turn defender, my laptop was broken. Perhaps I could have provided a counter argument and stopped it before nearly everyone signed the petition.

You, however, I invited to become a citizen. I have known you longer than most of my fellow regionmates have played NS. I would say I know you as well as I knew Unibot. I believe you are pragmatic and listen to reason.

My concern is this: Are you a feederite or a userite?

In my own opinion, without regard to conventional thought, and as a philosophical theory instead of a quantitative fact, a feederite believes in a strong executive and accountability to the in-game region. A userite believes in a strong legislature and accountability to the off-site forum.

I believe TEP balances a strong executive with a strong legislature and a strong judiciary--the only GCR to maintain such a balance. That balance is delicate, esp. at this present moment when the Magisterium is undergoing a Constitutional Convention.

Further, I believe the Delegate has an elected mandate, and should be accountable to the electorate, not the Magisterium. (This does not preclude being answerable to the Magisterium for ethical behavior.) The Concordat sets out the government of TEP to force the three branches to work together. No branch should dominate or bully another.
No worries.

Ah, alright. My apologies for making that misconception, then. His... reputation... has sadly harmed a lot of us Defenders just trying to get involved in various GCR regions. I heard about the petition... interesting, I guess. I've got nothing against going Defender, but it seems like his tactics to get the signatures were pretty underhanded and it didn't really reflect the true view of the region.

Aye, that you did! I appreciate that you think I'm pragmatic and listen to reason. I try to do that, but tend to fail at times due to my penchant for being overly sarcastic.

I identify as a userite, under what I see the definition to be. I spend more time in UCRs, most of my forrays into GCRs have been short-lived, and I've never really involved myself too much in the feederite sphere. However, under your definition, I think I fall as a mix. I support a strong Executive branch than I do a strong Legislature, but having spent 4+ years in user-created regions has made me much more leaning towards accountability to the off-site forum. However, I recognize that GCRs and UCRs are two different playing fields. In the case of GCRs, I believe that one needs a strong balance of representation between the in-game and the off-site, as both are vital to the region's success.

tl;dr though, I think TEP has a very good system going that appears very stable to me. If you define it as one that is Feederite, then I can get behind that.
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tl;dr though, I think TEP has a very good system going that appears very stable to me. If you define it as one that is Feederite, then I can get behind that.
What someone else defines TEP as isn't important. Every citizen needs to decide for themselves what is best for TEP.

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However, I recognize that GCRs and UCRs are two different playing fields. In the case of GCRs, I believe that one needs a strong balance of representation between the in-game and the off-site, as both are vital to the region's success.
I believe the Delegate is the representative of the in-game region and the Magis is the representation of the off-site forum. Although the Delegate is elected on the forum by citizens, the in-game nations endorse the Delegate and it is the Delegate they hear from and talk to. The Delegate is responsible to treat the in-game nations with respect, encourage them to join the forum, and give them opportunities to have fun.

The Magis is responsible to reform the region. That doesn't sound like much, but new ideas should flow into the Magis where experienced citizens can consider the pro's and con's. The Magis is the best structured legislature in the GCRs, perhaps even all of NS. I believe the Magis should create laws so the region is governed better[/b]. However, the people, not the Magis, should decide who governs the region. That means the Delegate should be able to organize the Executive, select ministers and assign them duties.

A userite would say the government should be structured to divide decisions among as many people as possible so more people can have fun participating in the government. A feederite would say the government should be structured to hold the Delegate responsible to the in-game region to provide means to have fun. The Magis is there to keep things organized, and the Conclave is there to make sure things are fair.

An illustration: A board game...
The Magis sets out the board game and makes sure all the pieces are there.
The Delegate invites people to play and gives them pieces to use.
The Conclave makes sure everyone is playing by the rules.

If the people aren't having fun, they will hold the Delegate responsible because the Delegate invited them. Therefore, the Delegate acts on their behalf as the go-between for them and the forum/government to make sure they are having fun and should be given the ability to do just that, act on behalf of the in-game region.
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A TEP Board game.. maybe that's an idea? :P

(Just throwing that in here, carry on)
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Fair enough, PUT. Personally I don't bother defining Feederite and Userite. In my mind, there are successful regions and there are unsuccessful regions. The East Pacific is an extremely prosperous and successful one, and it's system works quite well. Therefore, it is a fair conclusion that this is a model that works well for GCRs. Frankly, I don't understand why people make a big deal about "Feederite" and "Userite". People should just understand that UCRs and GCRs have different things and systems that work/fail for them, due to the various differences between them.

I agree that in a GCR, though, the World Assembly Delegate has a lot more responsibility than in a UCR. That's not something that can be denied.




Bach, can this happen pls?
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I would advise the Magisters to vote AGAINST this application.

Tim is not someone that can be trusted. He will call you a friend and then work against you for selfish ends. He used to call me friend, and then not only did he seize the channel #nationstates from me, but also banned me with no legitimate, logical reason. I can accept the channel lapsing on ownership, but to ban someone he called a friend, when I didn't do anything wrong, is just cowardly and childish IMO.

He used to be friends with Wintermoot, until he led or helped lead attacks and public opinion against him while Wintermoot was President in Spiritus. This led to him, Charax, and Denth Rowan leaving the region because of such betrayal and spitefulness to create a new region, Wintreath, a new region that has fortunately thrived.

He has openly admitted on IRC:
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How can you be trusted when you betray those whom you consider a friend, whom people consider you a friend? That's the idea of you know, friendships, where there's mutual trust and respect gained from that trust as well. You don't stab them in the back, or slap them in the face especially when they've helped you.

You may not be Unibot no, you're a different poison, almost as bad as say, Cormac. Poison is still bad. That is not something that is good for the Magisterium, people working against it for selfish ends, people who don't really care about this region as if it's their home. THis is my region, and this is my home, and we need people who want to help improve the region and care about everyone here. You don't care about anyone here but yourself.

You sell out a lot of people then try to seek people's arms under the friendship excuse. Sorry, no dice. I urge all Magisters to change their vote to NAY or AGAINST.
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Question is, from when is that quote and what was the context? You could pretty easily find some awful things I've said during my time here, doesn't mean I really believed those :P
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That quote was from tonight, and it was in reference to him bannin' Gov from #nationstates when he let the ownership lapse.
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You may not be Unibot no, you're a different poison, almost as bad as say, Cormac.
I like Cormac :(
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My, my, Gov, such pettiness. You seem childish. This is not a game for children. Run along now.
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I would advise the Magisters to vote AGAINST this application.

Tim is not someone that can be trusted. He will call you a friend and then work against you for selfish ends. He used to call me friend, and then not only did he seize the channel #nationstates from me, but also banned me with no legitimate, logical reason. I can accept the channel lapsing on ownership, but to ban someone he called a friend, when I didn't do anything wrong, is just cowardly and childish IMO.

He used to be friends with Wintermoot, until he led or helped lead attacks and public opinion against him while Wintermoot was President in Spiritus. This led to him, Charax, and Denth Rowan leaving the region because of such betrayal and spitefulness to create a new region, Wintreath, a new region that has fortunately thrived.

He has openly admitted on IRC:
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22:58TimThis is one of them.


How can you be trusted when you betray those whom you consider a friend, whom people consider you a friend? That's the idea of you know, friendships, where there's mutual trust and respect gained from that trust as well. You don't stab them in the back, or slap them in the face especially when they've helped you.

You may not be Unibot no, you're a different poison, almost as bad as say, Cormac. Poison is still bad. That is not something that is good for the Magisterium, people working against it for selfish ends, people who don't really care about this region as if it's their home. THis is my region, and this is my home, and we need people who want to help improve the region and care about everyone here. You don't care about anyone here but yourself.

You sell out a lot of people then try to seek people's arms under the friendship excuse. Sorry, no dice. I urge all Magisters to change their vote to NAY or AGAINST.
Greetings Fox News.

Let's take apart your statement one at a time, shall we? I did not seize the channel #nationstates from you. You let it drop, and I picked the channel up. Considering that you were holding the channel for a good part of a few years, and making people feel unsafe to go there, I chose to pick it up and see if I could create it into something better than a random trophy channel hanging around. One channel that should be seized from you, however, is #tep. You said you never had anyone ask for #nationstates from you, which is why you retained ownership of it. Yet, people have been asking for #tep to be returned and you have done nothing.

NOW we're getting into a situation that isn't even factually accurate in the slightest. You are not accurately informed on the matter in the slightest. What I *did* do was refuse to take a side between the feud that was going on between Former President Wintermoot and Minister of WA Affairs Salaxalans. I thought both sides were being rather stupid, and didn't want anything to do with it. So don't you dare try to twist a series events from the region that *I* founded, and expect get away with it. I'm not even going to bother further going on about how absolutely these claims are, because that'll just be feeding you for further bullshit retorts. If you're not a fan of me and Spiritus so much that you're willing to take baseless information and claim it as fact, then I welcome you to resign your Spiritus citizenship at your convenience.

I spent a good hour posting evil villain quotes in reply to your insistent demands to be unbanned from #nationstates. When I ran out of those, I started snarking. That quote would be what I said after the 10th or so time that you demanded to be given reason for your ban from #nationstates. I said it because I felt like saying that then openly yelling at you in a channel that a majority of Gameplayers don't feel comfortable around you. Furthermore, I really couldn't be bothered to deal with it while trying to keep myself on Honor Roll this quarter. There, I said it. Happy?

I really don't give a damn if you think I'm a poison, Govindia. I'm not here for selfish ends. Notice the pledges I've taken for both TEP Citizenship and Magisterium membership. The way I think of Nationstates, the only currency that matters is trust. Therefore, I like to keep a high amount of it around. What reason do I have to break oaths or try to screw over a region whose community I find so inviting and friendly (you now being the exception)? That's right, none. I'm here to try to involve myself in the region, because I wanted to join a friendly community with a cool dynamic. Don't compare me to Unibot, and his quest to influence all the GCRs of the world.

Please don't try to spin this into some situation where I sell people out constantly. You know how many people I've fucked over in the four years I've played Nationstates? Unless you count The Black Riders, I believe the count is three. Two were matters of Regional Security, and one was because they did it to me first.

Picking up the channel that one neglected to keep, with intent to make it a cultural hub in which as many people as possible would want to hang out, is not selling someone out. It's doing up a service for all of Gameplay, considering the name of the channel, and I've had quite a bit of people tell me exactly that.

I tried being polite for months, Gov, I really did. If you're going to freak out the second I do something you don't like, though, then I guess I'm done trying.


tl;dr for Magisters: The quote is out of context, Govindia is mad because I picked up the #nationstates channel after he let it drop, and I have no intent to screw over TEP


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Edited by East Malaysia, May 20 2014, 03:06:55 PM.
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