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Open Discussion on the Idea of a NS Judicial Confrence
Topic Started: Apr 29 2015, 05:16:06 AM (431 Views)
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It comes to my attention, that the international community is quite lacking in its representation and the gathering of NationStates legal minds. Not only of the Judges of the Judiciary, but the various advocates that engage in those systems.

I would like to propose to the Citizens and Government of The East Pacific, that we host such a conference among the regions, as a Foreign Affairs and cultural exchange exercise.

I am sure there are many details to be worked out, but I would like to gauge the opinion of all of you before I place much work into this proposal, for it later to be possibility declined.

All are welcome to share their thoughts on this matter, I am appreciative of any ideas that are thrown my direction.

Thank you for your Consideration.
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Well, the Delegate and FA minister should be interested to host this in the first place.

I at least think it's an interesting concept to consider.
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Apr 29 2015, 02:43:19 PM
I at least think it's an interesting concept to consider.
Seconded. It certainly would be nice to see the Judiciary system subjected to discussion and analysis. Maybe something good will come out of this.
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Apr 30 2015, 09:35:19 AM
Seconded. It certainly would be nice to see the Judiciary system subjected to discussion and analysis. Maybe something good will come out of this.
This is for the wider NS Community, not just TEP. I am asking if our region would be willing to host such an event.

NS Law is an essential part of NationStates because governance requires laws to function, there are plenty of conferences on different subjects... but nothing for the people that keep one of the core elements of both the GP and the RP game running.

Eventually, if I get no traction to host it here directly... I will at least ask that TEP sponsor such an event, if I were to host it on some other offsite forum.
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I love this idea. I remember a "NS Law Review" from about 2004 or 2005 or so that tried to keep track of legal cases in the major regions. It would be great to have us host a conference over legal matters in our regions.

I hope that the Delegate and Minister of Foreign Affairs takes this on, not just in the GCRs, but in all the major regions.
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Maybe Todd can devise a nice forum for this? He works on the NS World Fair forum too?

Or better yet, we create a temporary subforum in TEP and boost our FA at the same time.
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While I am overall supportive, I am unsure of what types of events should take place at such a summit. Further, I am worried about the limited functionality of creating a completely new forum for such an event- as it would surely not be as large or comprehensive as the NS World Fair. I would prefer to host it within TEP, if we had the option.


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May 6 2015, 02:30:51 AM
While I am overall supportive, I am unsure of what types of events should take place at such a summit. Further, I am worried about the limited functionality of creating a completely new forum for such an event- as it would surely not be as large or comprehensive as the NS World Fair. I would prefer to host it within TEP, if we had the option.
Well, I'd if it's a conference I'd envision there would be discussions on various topics. There are quite some elements of regional and interregional law that every region faces.

Off the top of my head, I'm thinking about the following topics:


  • Legitimacy and constitutional grounds of regional government (TWP, for example, has a completely different take on this than TEP. The status of in-game vs forum-based government and their authority is viewed quite differently. This greatly influences the system of law within a region.)
  • Legitimacy of intergovernmental treaties/ authority of treaties
  • Interregional common principles of law in Nationstates
  • Judicial systems throughout NS
  • Is supra-regional law possible? What would be supra-regional law (not necessarily the same as interregional agreements)
  • ..

A conference on such topics could be interesting and might provide ideas and insight for new initiatives and concepts in NS law. Furthermore, practical suggestions like law reviews, interregional arbitration or courts etc.. could be discussed.

I'm just brainstorming here, but there's a lot to go about.
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I'd be supportive if this endeavor. :)
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May 6 2015, 12:13:16 PM
I'd be supportive if this endeavor. :)
Does this mean that the Delegate's Office will be active in bringing this into reality?
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May 6 2015, 06:24:51 AM
Aelitia
May 6 2015, 02:30:51 AM
While I am overall supportive, I am unsure of what types of events should take place at such a summit. Further, I am worried about the limited functionality of creating a completely new forum for such an event- as it would surely not be as large or comprehensive as the NS World Fair. I would prefer to host it within TEP, if we had the option.
Well, I'd if it's a conference I'd envision there would be discussions on various topics. There are quite some elements of regional and interregional law that every region faces.

Off the top of my head, I'm thinking about the following topics:


  • Legitimacy and constitutional grounds of regional government (TWP, for example, has a completely different take on this than TEP. The status of in-game vs forum-based government and their authority is viewed quite differently. This greatly influences the system of law within a region.)
  • Legitimacy of intergovernmental treaties/ authority of treaties
  • Interregional common principles of law in Nationstates
  • Judicial systems throughout NS
  • Is supra-regional law possible? What would be supra-regional law (not necessarily the same as interregional agreements)
  • ..

A conference on such topics could be interesting and might provide ideas and insight for new initiatives and concepts in NS law. Furthermore, practical suggestions like law reviews, interregional arbitration or courts etc.. could be discussed.

I'm just brainstorming here, but there's a lot to go about.
Sorry for the Double Post Folks...

Not only those types of topics... but possible formulation of things like:

  • Model Treaties and Model Regional Constitutions
  • The relevance of common NS practices on Regional Law
  • Judicial and Foreign Cooperation when persons flee from criminal proceedings
  • among other things...
One of the most important facets of NS... our laws... effect every portion of the game. Its about time we start something like this.

Even then! If everyone brings their most important legal documents with them... We could start creating an NS Law database or Wiki.... how cool would that be?

Its all brainstorming... like Bach said... but it could be a very big conference!
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May 7 2015, 05:56:44 PM
Sorry for the Double Post Folks...
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Seriously, though. It would be fun, but a tremendous amount of work to organize. <__<
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Sorry for the Double Post Folks...
Burn, spammer! >: (

Seriously, though. It would be fun, but a tremendous amount of work to organize. <__<
I think we can do it. It would be a way to increase activity...
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As I said, I am more than willing to support and work on this initiative.

I question the discussion of interregional agreements, specifically by the members of the judiciary. Which are generally not authorized to participate in foreign affairs. That aside, I do think it would be smart to have discussion on the matter- but mere discussions may not interest all. Why not change the theme to "interregional law and Justice"? We could then welcome the input of lawmakers and executives of other regions in judicial decisions. Maybe even have a section just for Justices?


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May 11 2015, 12:35:21 PM
As I said, I am more than willing to support and work on this initiative.

I question the discussion of interregional agreements, specifically by the members of the judiciary. Which are generally not authorized to participate in foreign affairs. That aside, I do think it would be smart to have discussion on the matter- but mere discussions may not interest all. Why not change the theme to "interregional law and Justice"? We could then welcome the input of lawmakers and executives of other regions in judicial decisions. Maybe even have a section just for Justices?
It can still be a judicial conference, and still invite those you mention.

This is something that has never been done before, but it is a topic that has not yet been discussed.
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May 12 2015, 10:18:36 PM
Aelitia
May 11 2015, 12:35:21 PM
As I said, I am more than willing to support and work on this initiative.

I question the discussion of interregional agreements, specifically by the members of the judiciary. Which are generally not authorized to participate in foreign affairs. That aside, I do think it would be smart to have discussion on the matter- but mere discussions may not interest all. Why not change the theme to "interregional law and Justice"? We could then welcome the input of lawmakers and executives of other regions in judicial decisions. Maybe even have a section just for Justices?
It can still be a judicial conference, and still invite those you mention.

This is something that has never been done before, but it is a topic that has not yet been discussed. The first goal of the Conference is to bring together these various legal stakeholders to discuss law in its various forms... that shouldn't preclude other objectives.
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May 11 2015, 12:35:21 PM
As I said, I am more than willing to support and work on this initiative.

I question the discussion of interregional agreements, specifically by the members of the judiciary. Which are generally not authorized to participate in foreign affairs. That aside, I do think it would be smart to have discussion on the matter- but mere discussions may not interest all. Why not change the theme to "interregional law and Justice"? We could then welcome the input of lawmakers and executives of other regions in judicial decisions. Maybe even have a section just for Justices?
It can still be a judicial conference, and still invite those you mention.

This is something that has never been done before, but it is a topic that has not yet been discussed. The first goal of the Conference is to bring together these various legal stakeholders to discuss law in its various forms... that shouldn't preclude other objectives.
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