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Committee: In-Game Diplomacy
Topic Started: Oct 16 2016, 07:27:22 PM (1,231 Views)
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Committee for In-Game Diplomacy


Purpose:
We are not the only region in NationStates, but I believe we have the potential to become the greatest region in NationStates. It is possible, but we'll need to make it so, and I believe we can with the right amount of time and effort. At any rate, our diplomacy with other regions has... kind of fallen by the wayside. Diplomacy is a lot of work, and talking with regions is a lot like talking with people - if you don't talk to them in a while, they might think you're not their friend anymore. This committee will elevate our diplomacy abroad.


Potential points of discussion:
  • Should we seek new relations with other regions? What directions should we take?
  • For our current relations with other regions, how can we improve relations and let the NS world know that The East Pacific once again is willing to serve as a hub for culture in-game?
  • Work with the Foreign Affairs Committee with respect to embassy talk / embassy pruning


Participants:
All citizens of The East Pacific. Members may also discuss, but should not be directing discussion. Respect the sovereignty of The East Pacific, and great things may happen. The delegate will oversee this committee closely.


Leaders:
(To be selected over the coming 1-2 days.)


Timeframe:
From now until November 20, 2016, or sooner if the committee comes to a resolution sooner


End Goal:
We will have a more focused inter-regional view. What that means is we will look at our current alliances and will potentially recommend other alliances to the delegate. We may suggest diplomatic meetings with regions in order to better serve our interests as a region and project a more clear image of who we are abroad.
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According to the treaty thread, the following regions share warm relations with The East Pacific:

The United Defenders League
The North Pacific
Osiris
Taijitu
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Bear in mind that I am relatively new and still don't know how things work 100%.

Should we seek new relations with other regions? What directions should we take?
I'd say, go for it. I'd recommend pursuing relations first with regions allied/friendly with The United Defenders League, The North Pacific, Osiris, Taijitu; maybe see if one of them could recommend us to other potential allies. Also, we could try helping an aggrieved region or two when one pops up in the Security counsel votes (for example, in the latest one, Antifa).

For our current relations with other regions, how can we improve relations and let the NS world know that The East Pacific once again is willing to serve as a hub for culture in-game?
Well, our nations could try to step up culture and environmental beauty. By doing so, that would encourage tourism. Also, we might try learning what an ally is voting on a WA proposal, and as a region support them.

Anyhow, those are my two cents. Do with them what you will.
Edited by Strat, Oct 18 2016, 03:23:48 PM.

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Todd McCloud
Oct 16 2016, 10:06:21 PM
According to the treaty thread, the following regions share warm relations with The East Pacific:

The United Defenders League
The North Pacific
Osiris
Taijitu


As the diplomat from The Pacific, it is my sincerest of hopes that my region finds itself on that list in the near future.

In my opinion, TEP needs to focus first on improving relations with the other feeders, the Pacifics, where a majority of players spend their days. I'm certain that both The Pacific and The South Pacific would be more than willing for TEP to re-establish communications and grow in friendship. I cannot really speak for the other two, as The West Pacific is currently being a big ol' raider organization and The North Pacific has pretty much declared itself the enemy of The Pacific, BUT I'm sure that, much like the regions I have firsthand knowledge of, they too would be happy to grow closer to the other feeder regions, and should The East Pacific approach them in order to increase relations, reciprocality will ensue.
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Oct 20 2016, 12:25:25 PM
Todd McCloud
Oct 16 2016, 10:06:21 PM
According to the treaty thread, the following regions share warm relations with The East Pacific:

The United Defenders League
The North Pacific
Osiris
Taijitu


As the diplomat from The Pacific, it is my sincerest of hopes that my region finds itself on that list in the near future.

In my opinion, TEP needs to focus first on improving relations with the other feeders, the Pacifics, where a majority of players spend their days. I'm certain that both The Pacific and The South Pacific would be more than willing for TEP to re-establish communications and grow in friendship. I cannot really speak for the other two, as The West Pacific is currently being a big ol' raider organization and The North Pacific has pretty much declared itself the enemy of The Pacific, BUT I'm sure that, much like the regions I have firsthand knowledge of, they too would be happy to grow closer to the other feeder regions, and should The East Pacific approach them in order to increase relations, reciprocality will ensue.
I've taken a few days to look over this proposal, and I think I'm on board with that with most GCRs. For a few reasons - neutrality in these often tiresome and counterproductive GCR wars, better connectivity between fellow regions, the potential for new festivals / celebrations, etc. It would be nice especially for newer delegates, because these alliances would already be set into place and the hope is with enough alliances it gives that new delegate options and better security.

I can cast a line out to see what regions first want to have a treaty with us, then go from there. What says everyone else?
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This is a good idea Todd. I'd love to involve myself, but if it needs lots of activeness from me all year around and travelling from region to region (or, however it works) I definitely won't be able to, as I'm booked up IRL. Hopefully though, you'll find your team. Good luck!



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@DrWinner:

The North Pacific has no more declared itself the enemy of The Pacific than I have couped this region. When you say that you "cannot speak for the other two", perhaps you should stick with that hm?
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I don't think being made an arbiter counts as a proper coup of TEP, but if you say it does, sure. There is a reason even Ivan, who was trying to be diplomatic with everyone, shut the embassies with you for what you did/tried to do.

TWP doesn't have an issue with TEP as far as I know, unless Badger or Davelands have some secret grudge that only they know about. Raven can speak for TNP. Pretty much most major regions are interested in being friendly with TEP, it's just how far they'll go to achieve that.
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@Raven:

See the words "pretty much" in my previous claim. I'm no analyst, but I doubt anyone would claim that TNP and the NPO share a jovial friendship, and I know many within both regions that would in fact claim that the mentioned regions are indeed enemies, waiting for one excuse or the other pull a coup.

But I desist. TEP is not the place for this conversation. Really, there is no place for this conversation, but that's not really my problem.
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I broadly agree with focusing on relations with the other Feeders and Sinkers first. And I don't just say that because I'm the Delegate of one of the Sinkers -- our relations are already good. :P
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I agree with Cormac on both accounts, really. I'd like for us to focus on the feeders mainly, with perhaps some ancillary discussions with UCR's like, for instance, Europeia.

I am compiling a 'halfway through' report to update everyone.
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Halfway Report (~15 Days)

What we have done so far:

What we will do
  • Continue & start more discussion with individual regions, paying specific attention to feeders, sinkers, and larger regions.
  • In reference to above, I will take one to two new people to the table for the purpose of looking over treaties, accountability, witnessing, and learning gameplay in general. One of the issues I've seen in TEP and other large regions in general is that it's kind of a large leap to go from knowing about the region to knowing about the world around them. That is essential for one aspiring to get involved in foreign affairs, diplomacy, the delegacy, etc. This program, called the Table Setter Program is open as of the writing of this update.

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As a former representative of a region which regretfully broke off diplomatic ties, I can tell you that from our PoV

The main problem was lack of regular contact.


A relationship is a two-way street. For TEP to have meaningful friendships with other regions, an active ambassador group is essential.


EDIT: Tyops
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The main problem was lack of regular contact.


A relationship is a two-way street. For TEP to have meaningful friendships with other regions, an active ambassador group is essential.


EDIT: Tyops
It's unfortunate but I agree. As a former ambassador and head of foreign affairs... the biggest issue is having an active ambassador and with regular FA updates that keep a line of communication open. Perhaps we should have microtopic updates where each topic is 140 characters or less. :p

Feeders/Sinkers/Treaty Regions should be the priority followed by Major UCRs.

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I cannot really speak for the other two, as The West Pacific is currently being a big ol' raider organization
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I'll speak for the other one but with my personal opinion-
TWP's Delegate allowed me enough freedom to run the military and train troops using my judgment and IMO that involves raiding (solely because I only know how to raid?) but the fact that we raid doesn't take away our Independence, nor does that in itself have anything to do with the foreign affairs- should our allies ever be in risk, I'm instantly going defender defending said allies.
I've seen TWP get embassies with defender-aligned regions
Just because I encourage raiding as a form of training within the military, like a training method during peaceful times- we know what comes first if allies are threatened>> defense of allies. =p
We've also done detags as a form of training before- but in my opinion, it's whatever generates activity and retention-- while staying respectful of allies.
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I think TEP should make it easier for UCRs to approach us and request/establish embassies off-site and later on-site. We don't have to reach out but they'll come to us.
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I'm leaning toward EM here. We don't need for things to be complicated - if we could just have a few embassies and publish regular, rather short updates, I think that would prevent people from being overwhelmed.
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I cannot really speak for the other two, as The West Pacific is currently being a big ol' raider organization
-.-
I'll speak for the other one but with my personal opinion-
TWP's Delegate allowed me enough freedom to run the military and train troops using my judgment and IMO that involves raiding (solely because I only know how to raid?) but the fact that we raid doesn't take away our Independence, nor does that in itself have anything to do with the foreign affairs- should our allies ever be in risk, I'm instantly going defender defending said allies.
I've seen TWP get embassies with defender-aligned regions
Just because I encourage raiding as a form of training within the military, like a training method during peaceful times- we know what comes first if allies are threatened>> defense of allies. =p
We've also done detags as a form of training before- but in my opinion, it's whatever generates activity and retention-- while staying respectful of allies.
Military-wise, we're nice.
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I think TEP should make it easier for UCRs to approach us and request/establish embassies off-site and later on-site. We don't have to reach out but they'll come to us.
I understand what you are saying. Talks between the Pacific and the West Pacific have been lacking, so I was just projecting the major Pacifican attitude toward the West Pacific, which is that ya'll are just a bunch of raiders. I see that there is more, but, as a diplomat who is supposed to represent the views of the Pacifican people, my hands are a good bit tied as to worldview. I'm sure you are all great people in TWP.

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Pruning down embassies to feeders, sinkers, and important UCRs would no down help. It helped the NPO revive our Foreign Affairs (after all, I'm here, right?).
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In lieu of the delegate elections and impending holidays in the US, I think it would be wise to extend this committee to Sunday the 27th.

If I do win these elections, it is my fullest intention to carry on these policies and not jeopardize what we have worked hard for during these programs.

If I do not win, I will need time to get the new delegate informed on these committees and their results.

Either way, a short report will be generated full of suggestions taken from those who brought forth ideas. Continue with ideas and suggestions. We will begin to finalize things by the Thanksgiving holiday!
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