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Traditional Medicine; Voting ends 10th May
Topic Started: May 4 2018, 05:30:54 PM (136 Views)
Bai Lung
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The World Assembly,

Aware that nations generally have laws against advertising or distributing substances and other therapies for medicinal use unless those substances or therapies have been tested extensively for both effectiveness and safety;

Noting that many nations also have patent systems which do not allow the establishment of monopolies over the production or distribution of products, in cases where prior public use of such products has demonstrably existed;

Realizing that this combination of laws is likely to deter pharmaceutical businesses from testing substances for which medicinal properties have traditionally been claimed, and thus to hinder the legal distribution of those potential remedies for various medical problems;

Believing that this problem needs to be solved, for the public good.

Hereby,

1). Declares that the use of untested substances as medications potentially poses an extreme hazard to member nations’ populations, not only due to possible harmful side-effects but also because some people might rely on them to the exclusion of more reliable modern alternatives.

2). Defines the term ‘Traditional Medicine’, for the purpose of this resolution, as meaning any medication or other therapeutic technique that is used because of popular belief rather than scientific proof for its effectiveness, and whose use is sufficiently customary that it could not be patented in legal systems whose laws do not allow granting patents for products with provable prior use.

3). Strongly urges member nations’ governments:
(a) To arrange proper testing for all substances used in traditional medicine within their jurisdictions, except where the collection of those substances would harm endangered species or violate the bodily autonomy of sapient beings, and to publicize the results;
(b) To arrange proper testing, likewise, for all other therapies used in traditional medicine within their jurisdictions;
(c) To ban the manufacture and distribution, of any traditional medication for which testing has not confirmed reasonable safety and predictability of dosage;
(d) To ban the practice of any other traditional medical technique for which testing has not confirmed reasonable safety;
(e) To ban likewise any traditional medication or other traditional medical theory that has been proven reasonably safe but whose effectiveness has not been proven, if a better alternative is available, unless it will be used only alongside that alternative (and can safely be thus used) — rather than in lieu of that alternative — for the possibility of a helpful placebo effect;
(f) To ensure that the collection of material from organisms of any species for use in medicinal products does not endanger any species, for example by requiring that the material be taken only from farmed organisms rather than from wild ones;
(g) To ensure that any sentient life-forms farmed for this purpose are kept, and the materials collected from them, humanely;
(h) To promote research into synthesis of the active ingredients from those traditional medicines that research has proven effective and reasonably safe, so that versions of those medicines can be produced which will not have to rely on natural sources and for which dosages can probably be set more accurately than in the traditional forms.

4). Requires member nations’ governments:
(a) To ban the manufacture and distribution of any traditional medications that could not be tested under the limits set by clause 3.a. of this resolution;
(b) To ban the practice of any other traditional medical techniques that could not be tested under the limits set by clause 3.b. of this resolution;
(c) To share all information that they have about the safety or effectiveness of traditional medicines with both their own nations' inhabitants and the World Assembly Scientific Programme (WASP).

5). Establishes a ‘Traditional Medicines Evaluation Agency’ within the WASP, and instructs this body to:
(a) Compile and study the relevant data supplied to WASP by member nations;
(b) Arrange proper testing of any substances and techniques used in traditional medicine within member nations for which such data is currently lacking, except as limited by clause 3.a. of this resolution;
(c) Distribute this data to member nations’ governments.
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More info here: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=438840&sid=0ca0e220c1aff43643199587ab5ec60d

This resolution is now up for vote.

Bai Lung will vote FOR.
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-Kelly Minn'ow-Jones, former leader of the Dannistrian National Party
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I will be voting against as I am not particularly comfortable with the sort of authority and information the WASP seems to attain from the language in this resolution. Much of what has been "urged" and promoted could and should be handled by each individual member-state.
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Kyrloth will be voting for. All this resolution mandates is, where real medicine can solve a health problem, that it be used and not unfairly sidelined in favour of untested, unproven and, above all, potentially dangerous herbal remedies. Nothing prevents the traditional "medicine" from being administered in an unofficial context - which it generally is already - only from being prescribed by a general practitioner as a replacement for real medicine. A doctor's office ought to be a place of science, not old wives' tales.
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Shas dzhu’sar’lur e drur / zori shas tsar Kyrlotie rei.
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Seeing that the Majority of the forum votes are FOR
I would vote for too ^_^
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If the World Assembly is going to regulate pharmaceuticals, it should (a) not artificially single out traditional medicines for special treatment, (b) establish clearer testing requirements than simply "proper testing" (testing for what? do traditional medicines have to be effective, or simply not cause harm?), and (c) consider limiting the scope of the resolution to internationally traded pharmaceuticals (though I don't think this is strictly necessary).

As such, I'm leaning against.
Edited by Auralia, May 6 2018, 09:04:48 PM.
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May 6 2018, 01:52:34 PM
Kyrloth will be voting for. All this resolution mandates is, where real medicine can solve a health problem, that it be used and not unfairly sidelined in favour of untested, unproven and, above all, potentially dangerous herbal remedies. Nothing prevents the traditional "medicine" from being administered in an unofficial context - which it generally is already - only from being prescribed by a general practitioner as a replacement for real medicine. A doctor's office ought to be a place of science, not old wives' tales.
I don't understand this analysis. The resolution doesn't require that "real medicine" be used where available. Nor does it ban all traditional medicines from being prescribed by general practitioners.

What it does is ban -- even in an unofficial context -- traditional medicines that have not undergone "proper testing", whatever that means.
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I haven't commented much on this resolution, but after a couple readings I can't see any major problems. I've seen concern about banning traditional medicines that can't meet given standards, but I believe that any medicine, traditional or not, can meet those standards if it is of real use to a patient.

I will be voting for.
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Traditional Medicine was passed 15,760 votes to 3,933.
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"They whine about discrimination. Do you know who is being discriminated against? The Hal'vonnist people of Dannistaan, the ones who created this nation... I am talking about the Dannistrian Hal'vonnist people of the North as well as the East...Communism is racial! A racial minority seized control in Bai Lung and in all her satellite states such as Kelssek, Dovakhan and the Free Pacific States, and many other countries I could name."

-Kelly Minn'ow-Jones, former leader of the Dannistrian National Party
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