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The East Pacific vs Kerisma
Topic Started: Jul 14 2004, 02:39:17 AM (530 Views)
Infinite Loop
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tonight at 3:30am I found Kerisma to be in violation of regional endorsement cap.
I also discovered that he had endorsed many nations but not myself I suspect Endorsement swapping, but do not have a message on file from Kerisma.

I sent the defendent this message and placed them under arrest.

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Greetings Kerisma,
you are now under arrest,
you have the right to remain silent
any thing you say can and will be used in your prosecution.
you have the right to representation
or you may represent yourself
you may present your defense on the East Pacific regional message board.
[address will be supplied to the Defendent as soon as I get the address]
you are directed to post your message in the regional Court,*
Supreme Court of the EP in the topic entitled The East Pacific  vs. Kerisma
the charges presented against you are.
Suspected Treason (Endorsement swapping),
Failure to remain below the Regional Endorsement Cap
other charges may follow as operatives investigate your case.

Infinite Loop

*Please note due to recent spamming by a guest, you will have to register I apologise for this.


I now turn over Prosecution to Free Pacific States.
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Endorsements recieved ( 69 ) : Cupertino, 1 Infinite Loop, 2 Infinite Loop, Infinite Loop, Bob Mckenzie, Shinagami, Shortbus, Magic Emperor Ghaelon, Ghaelon, SLAK, Prarie squid, Alys Whitill, The Cabin Grrrrl, The Cabin Girl, hax0rstan, Black Wolf Furries, Mr OWL, Vladimir Harkonnen, Uncle Duke, McTropolis, Avignon, Caesar Calligula, Max Zorin, Deus Ex Fiat, Walter Koenig, The True Reich, Atlanta Constitution, Fark Propaganda Corps, The Knights of Colombus, Fertile Sputniks, Jude Streicher,Otto Skorzeny, Nicholas der Kirchwass, Megalocyathus, Lil Megalocyathus, Uncle Toms Nation, Simon Legree, Yatta_, Lowtax, Patriotute, Doctor Zaius, General Ursus, Corneluis the ape, Nova the wild human, Bright eyes taylor, Dr Zira, Alex Chiu, Honkey the Goose, StandartenFuerher, Neko Mimi, The NS Invaders, Free n Accepted Masons.Miss Tessmacher, Hurricane Jezebel ,Rbt E Lee ,Dead Yankee ,U S Grant ,General Mead, Baron Karza, Rowdy Roddy Piper, Col Sanders, Aunt Jemimas witnesses, of the people Q, Le French Stereotypes, Qfdsdiozbnf, Alan Scott, Baltar the Traitor, Mok Mok the Jawa, space kraken,
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Free Pacific States
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Your honor, quite simply, there is not much of a case to present. Kerisma (who I myself have been watching lately) went above the regional endorsement limit of 150. Whether she meant to or not, does not matter. Whether she cares or not, does not matter. Whether she was endorsing or not, does not matter.

What matters is that she went above the limit, and thereby needs to be punished. Now, at this time, no precedant for this charge has been set, since in the last couple of days marked the first occurances of it's breaking. Thereby, the prosecution would like to go for a full punishment: Regional Banning.
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Screw you. Kerisma now ceases to exist.
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President of HoopHoopland
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May I suggest that the endorsement cap is made more public? :unsure: I know people will want to break it anyway, but it might save you guys some work.. ;)

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Q: Now doctor, isn't it true that when a person dies in his sleep, he doesn't know about it until the next morning?
A: Did you actually pass the bar exam?
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Kelssek
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I think we're having a little misunderstanding here. The endorsement cap is not a law saying you must have less than 150 endorsements. In my interpretation, it is a written guideline which the delegate can use to justify kicking/banning someone who is posing a threat. No law is broken by having more than 150, it is just a guideline.

The intent of the rule against endorsement swapping is to prevent overthrow of the delegate, not to ban people with a lot of endorsements. Endorsements themselves are not the problem, it's what having too many can precipitate that's the problem.

The charge is not breaking the cap, but treason by endorsement swapping. You must prove that treason was intended and that endorsement swapping was the means to carry it out, beyond reasonable doubt, for us to find the defendant guilty.
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packilvania
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Actaully, Let me explain...

The endorsement cap IS LAW-

If you are not active on these forums, and have more than 150 endorsements, you are kicked,

If you ARE active on these forums, then its a case by case with Loop-
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Free Pacific States
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Hmmm...

I'd hate to press it, but I must. This is why we need a lawbook! Personally, however, I must agree with the courts. If it is not written in an official EP document, then how could it be law?
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The Wachovia Coalition
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At the risk of diluting this thread please allow me to point you to the thread below which outlines said law in our lawbook.

http://invisionfree.com/forums/The_East_Pa...?showtopic=1151

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Currently in the region as Wachoviasa.

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Free Pacific States
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Withdrawn.
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Infinite Loop
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the forum the Book of the Law is for the posting of all Laws that they may be read by all.

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Endorsements recieved ( 69 ) : Cupertino, 1 Infinite Loop, 2 Infinite Loop, Infinite Loop, Bob Mckenzie, Shinagami, Shortbus, Magic Emperor Ghaelon, Ghaelon, SLAK, Prarie squid, Alys Whitill, The Cabin Grrrrl, The Cabin Girl, hax0rstan, Black Wolf Furries, Mr OWL, Vladimir Harkonnen, Uncle Duke, McTropolis, Avignon, Caesar Calligula, Max Zorin, Deus Ex Fiat, Walter Koenig, The True Reich, Atlanta Constitution, Fark Propaganda Corps, The Knights of Colombus, Fertile Sputniks, Jude Streicher,Otto Skorzeny, Nicholas der Kirchwass, Megalocyathus, Lil Megalocyathus, Uncle Toms Nation, Simon Legree, Yatta_, Lowtax, Patriotute, Doctor Zaius, General Ursus, Corneluis the ape, Nova the wild human, Bright eyes taylor, Dr Zira, Alex Chiu, Honkey the Goose, StandartenFuerher, Neko Mimi, The NS Invaders, Free n Accepted Masons.Miss Tessmacher, Hurricane Jezebel ,Rbt E Lee ,Dead Yankee ,U S Grant ,General Mead, Baron Karza, Rowdy Roddy Piper, Col Sanders, Aunt Jemimas witnesses, of the people Q, Le French Stereotypes, Qfdsdiozbnf, Alan Scott, Baltar the Traitor, Mok Mok the Jawa, space kraken,
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Kelssek
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I stand by my ruling. The law says, "If the suspected swapper recieves more than 150 endorsements." This is therefore subject to the person in question being suspected of swapping. It is the ruling of this court that breaking the endorsement cap is not by itself a violation of the law, it must be accompanied by intent to commit treason.

(I will start a judicial precedents thread in the Book of the Law too. There are some important decisions in the past cases that need to be summarised.)
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Kelssek
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Call for closing statements, verdict in 24 hours.
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Kelssek
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Without a defence, the prosecution's evidence stands unrefuted. Therefore, on the charge of treason by endorsement swapping, this court finds Kerisma guilty.

The defendant is hereby sentenced to be banned permanently from the East Pacific. Parole will be at Delegate's discretion. This matter is adjourned.
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