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It's the ADN's fault...; Loop might like this one...
Topic Started: Jun 15 2005, 11:45:25 AM (550 Views)
Halchot
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Infinite Loop
Jun 21 2005, 01:49 AM
gomen nasai

They are a Counter Invader group, they make servitor regions swear fealty, and place a bunch of their people on the servitor regions to join the region and act as representative and regional officials if accepted,

they are also for some reason very paranoid about what they say in their forum, and have been known to banish members for even mentioning simple things said on their forum
they are known to preban persons to keep them from seeing their forum and they both
collect and share IP addresses, culled via several methods, from simple admin control of a forum to very intrusive methods I care not to go into, although I will hint that it is why hotlinking images from anywhere other than Walagata or Photobucket is a banable offense on this forum as well as the PIF.

I said it in the Meritocracy and I believe you had this in your signature over there-"A defender group is merely an invader group in drag."
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Halchot
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Xiopothos Chief Administrator
Jun 21 2005, 01:46 AM
Its some type of group that claims to liberate regions and "restores denocracy", but I suspect its all just a front and that its really a type of militaristic beurocracy. They gottrten control of over twenty regions, including TWP. Al that really does is tear down the order in regions and then people end up in the ever-so-dreaded rejected realms... Brr... :ph43r: If they do come at us with their little crusade, though, I'm not going to hesitate to show that they're not welcome if I see ANY ADN forces move into the region. They worm their way in one by one using puppet nations(humdreds of them, makes it harder to tell who's friend or foe), and before we know it, anarchy overruns the place and they come in with an attack from the inside... It realy does concern me. Loop, I've done some reading, and I know that you do know a load more about this then I andd probably everyone here, so do you mind telling us the rest?

One example of the ADN that I was involved in first hand was in the region 000.

We were having a delegate election and well I suggest you follow this link ;

http://merit.nosync.org/index.php?showtopic=402

As I believe i mentioned in another topic on these forums my Meritocratic nation is Evans.

But the ADN is indeed twice as ruthless and slimey then any invader group I've ever come across. There is no need to compile a list and distribute it of people's IPs. If ANYTHING happened of that sort to one of them they'd have a fit and cry and whine and get all the IPs they could and distrubte them and appeal to the MODS to ban and delete nations.

Well I've complained and been against what the ADN has "stood" for for a while.
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Xiopothos Chief Administrator
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Luckily, for those with fdialup, tracking us is pointeless. I have it. Pl;us, correct ,me if I'm mistaken, but isn't taking and disributing that information a federal offense? I propose we carpet from under them, and repor this heinous acti9n to the department of state.
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Codex
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It can't be an offense particularly, on the basis that it's sent. It doesn't require any invasive measures to get somebody's IP address.
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Republic of Govindia
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so what exactly is the ADN and what does it standfor?
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Infinite Loop
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Halchot
Jun 22 2005, 10:34 AM
Xiopothos Chief Administrator
Jun 21 2005, 01:46 AM
Its some type of group that claims to liberate regions and "restores denocracy", but I suspect its all just a front and that its really a type of militaristic beurocracy. They gottrten control of over twenty regions, including TWP. Al that really does is tear down the order in regions and then people end up in the ever-so-dreaded rejected realms... Brr...  :ph43r:  If they do come at us with their little crusade, though, I'm not going to hesitate to show that they're not welcome if I see ANY ADN forces move into the region. They worm their way in one by one using puppet nations(humdreds of them, makes it harder to tell who's friend or foe), and before we know it, anarchy overruns the place and they come in with an attack from the inside... It realy does concern me. Loop, I've done some reading, and I know that you do know a load more about this then I andd probably everyone here, so do you mind telling us the rest?

One example of the ADN that I was involved in first hand was in the region 000.

We were having a delegate election and well I suggest you follow this link ;

http://merit.nosync.org/index.php?showtopic=402

As I believe i mentioned in another topic on these forums my Meritocratic nation is Evans.

But the ADN is indeed twice as ruthless and slimey then any invader group I've ever come across. There is no need to compile a list and distribute it of people's IPs. If ANYTHING happened of that sort to one of them they'd have a fit and cry and whine and get all the IPs they could and distrubte them and appeal to the MODS to ban and delete nations.

Well I've complained and been against what the ADN has "stood" for for a while.

Actually I did some checking, and did you know that in Invision Sharing, Culling, and Distributing IP addresses is illegal.
Yeah, seems that the core of the ADN's function is Highly Illegal to the host of their forum.

Also, Culling IP's and the Puppet Master could be counted under this
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(h) Hacking or cheating for internet/online games;


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l) Invasive of privacy or impersonation of any person/entity; and (m) Hacking materials or information.
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That means... We can finally stop the madness!
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Infinite Loop
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Codex
Jun 22 2005, 11:43 AM
It can't be an offense particularly, on the basis that it's sent. It doesn't require any invasive measures to get somebody's IP address.

one of the ways IP addresses is (are) culled is fairly intrusive, that is why hotlinked images from sources other than Photobucket or Walagata are forbidden here and on the PIF
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Xiopothos Chief Administrator
Jun 22 2005, 04:40 PM
That means... We can finally stop the madness!

no one has still answered my question.....meh <.<
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Infinite Loop
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No one is quite sure,
the Letters ADN have stood for several things in the "backroom"
publicly it is Alliance Defense Network
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Codex
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Infinite Loop
Jun 22 2005, 08:44 PM
Codex
Jun 22 2005, 11:43 AM
It can't be an offense particularly, on the basis that it's sent. It doesn't require any invasive measures to get somebody's IP address.

one of the ways IP addresses is (are) culled is fairly intrusive, that is why hotlinked images from sources other than Photobucket or Walagata are forbidden here and on the PIF

It's hardly intrusive. You can't browse the internet (unless you bother going through anonymous proxies or something) without revealing your IP address.
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Infinite Loop
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by intrusive I mean how they will go to a forum they dont control and post the images to get IP addresses,
and it isnt so much that htey collect them but they also distribute them, which is a no no to invision.
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Xiopothos Chief Administrator
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Well, that means we can shut them down!
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The Treaty of Rillianon has been signed... the war is over! Huzzah!

"Er...as a sidenote, although I obviously cannot limit voting, I ask that people vote only if they have ACTUALLY READ MY BRIEFS, as opposed to simply following instructions from Pack to "vote for the hive." -Free Pacific States, on the FPS election
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Halchot
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The East Pacific has really taken me by suprise. The hospitality and general community of this region is enlightening and sheds many of the feeder perceptions I once had. It is refreshing to find a region that can have a civil and genuine conversation about the ADN without going into flaming but instead relying on facts and sounds opinions.


Back to the issue at hand.....the ADN is like a scratch off lottery ticket. It looks and sounds incredible like "Win $7,777 Instantly" yet once you pay the $1 and see it for what it is you realize it's a con.
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Infinite Loop
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that is a actually interesting analogy,

on the PIF I go a bit deeper in detail about the ADN and invaders,
however we always try to keep from simply flaming, and whatnot.
it just isnt good form.
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Halchot
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Infinite Loop
Jun 23 2005, 02:47 AM
that is a actually interesting analogy,

on the PIF I go a bit deeper in detail about the ADN and invaders,
however we always try to keep from simply flaming, and whatnot.
it just isnt good form.

I'd be very interested to read some of this if you could provide links.

With anaologies...I loved anaolies al throughout highschool english classes and still do to this day.
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Infinite Loop
Jun 22 2005, 10:47 PM
that is a actually interesting analogy,

on the PIF I go a bit deeper in detail about the ADN and invaders,
however we always try to keep from simply flaming, and whatnot.
it just isnt good form.

I suggest that Packilvania and I, with East Pacific funding, lead a joint invasion force into the ADN and take over!
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Xiopothos Chief Administrator
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Whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA! Hold on here a minute, Gov! Then that would give them an "excuse" to invade. I propse pulling the plug for their heinous crimes. IP numbers are considered private information, and distributing them to people isniort only violtory of an invision contract, but also, a violation ogf the law. Why, what would happen if a hacker or some stalker got ahold of that? he'd be able top hack you, or stalk you, because he can trace that to your residence. I say we just tell this to the head admin of Invision, and have him take the bpoard offline, then sending an email and inform the government.
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The Treaty of Rillianon has been signed... the war is over! Huzzah!

"Er...as a sidenote, although I obviously cannot limit voting, I ask that people vote only if they have ACTUALLY READ MY BRIEFS, as opposed to simply following instructions from Pack to "vote for the hive." -Free Pacific States, on the FPS election
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The Fluffy Horde
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Jun 23 2005, 07:29 PM
Whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA! Hold on here a minute, Gov! Then that would give them an "excuse" to invade. I propse pulling the plug for their heinous crimes. IP numbers are considered private information, and distributing them to people isniort only violtory of an invision contract, but also, a violation ogf the law. Why, what would happen if a hacker or some stalker got ahold of that? he'd be able top hack you, or stalk you, because he can trace that to your residence. I say we just tell this to the head admin of Invision, and have him take the bpoard offline, then sending an email and inform the government.

It could be on behalf of Invision.

Or we could send in Mr & Mrs. Smith :P
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Nothing to invade, they have a user founded region and all you would do is give them ammo.

the best way to combat it is to keep truth and honor at your side, if you see false propaganda and you know better and can especially prove it, then do so.

Acting Rashly is not a quality of the Ep, Let the others act rashly
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well now, there are exceptions to that rule :P
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Jun 23 2005, 11:42 PM
well now, there are exceptions to that rule :P

yes and to that i agree...

:)
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