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[ALLI]Non-Emergency Convention; Setup Phase
Topic Started: Jun 28 2005, 03:49:10 PM (146 Views)
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Of current, I'd like to suggest the hosting of a Non-Emergency Convention by the Sec-Gen in order to discuss several non-emergency issues. I thus present the Setup Phase; I'd ask that those in the alliance put forward any issues they believe worth discussing. At that point, the Secretary-General could then host such a meeting, and begin discussion on these points as he sees fit (I'm assuming the most pressing first.)

Currently, FPS wishes to discuss the following issues:
The EPTO: Exponent of Freedom, or Exponent of Democracy?
EAF Equitment: Should it be standardized, or just use what the different nations donate? If standardized, what type of equitment should it use? If not, should the EPTO supply ammunition, or should it be supplied by nations?
Terrorism, or Not?: Should the EPTO decide on a case-by-case basis, or make an overal policy on terrorism, freedom fighting, and other acts often seen as those of terrorists.
EAF Basing: The EAF is running out of places to put troops and weaponry. Can we get some more?

Thats it, for now. Suggest ya'll put through your own ideas.
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Krechzianko
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Well:

-We support democracy, but it's really democratic values more than actual democracy. As long as a nation's leaders listen to the people's opinion and rule in a fairly benevolent way, we'll support them to a degree. Freedom is something we should naturally support; however, this doesn't mean that we'll invade every country that isn't free.

-For weaponry, I think standardized weapons are a good idea. EM isn't really keen on it (after all, he has future tech), but I like the idea overall. And Krechzianko makes so much weaponry, we could always give a little bit to the EAF. We use Chinese weapons, but with slightly more advanced technology (HUD computers, satellite imaging screens, etc.).

-Terrorism is a tricky one. I'd say that if terrorists attack an EPTO nation, it's considered an attack like any other. If they go for a non-EPTO nation, we can do it case-by-case.

-Krechzianko has bases everywhere. I'd prefer the EAF doesn't occupy my overseas bases, but the Chinese Territories and certain, out-of-the-way areas in the mainland could house EAF troops.


But if you think I should set up an individual discussion for each one, I can do that.

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I would like to discuss how we handle cases by command sectors. For example, IOCOM is part of EPTO Western Command. But in supporting East Malaysia, IOCOM had to cross into the EPTO Southeast Command. In this case, would WESTCOM temporarily relinquish its operation of IOCOM, to allow SECOM to take control of IOCOM, while that division is operating in the SECOM sector? Or would WESTCOM simply continue its supervision of IOCOM?

Another example: should an emergency incident take place in EPTO Northeast Command. Who would respond? The entire Emergency Action Force, or just member nations in that command sector? I think clearing these issues up might prevent any confusion between commands. It hasn't happened so far, and I don't expect it would. But just in case, I think we need to know what to do. It wouldn't hurt to have sort of an order of operation.



I'm looking forward to our first non-emergency convention. I think it would give us a chance to improve EPTO a little, and clean up the main office. Cleaning is fun. (Note the sarcasm.)
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What should happpen if a nation in command of something is going thru some trubles? Like for example: East Malaysia in "Liberation". East Malaysia is the Space Forces Commander of the EPTO, so where would command fall?

Hope that maked since.... it's only 2:29 AM. That's my only question.
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I'd be willing to have a summit held in my nation, in New Delhi, hosted jointly by the EPTO Secretary General and the Govindian President, that we can all meet to discuss, separate from the upcoming state dinner.

Other than that, here are my thoughts:

-We should follow more off of the principles of NATO and how they've worked. They are both the proponents of freedom and democracy.

-Terrorism: same policy as NATO's. If they attack on a scale that was done in EM, consider it an attack on the alliance according to Article 5. Other than that, do it on a case by case basis. As I said before, this was originally based off of NATO principles, geared towards the EP, so we should work off of their policies.

-Equipment wise, this is a tricky one. Most of the Western countries agreed, and stated in the charter, to use as their rifle ammunition 5.56 X 45 mm (.223 Remington) and 7.62 X 51 mm (.308 Winchester) and 9 X 19 mm Luger Parabellum as their pistol standard (this I disagree with, unless it's used in SMGs. 9 x 19 mm is an ineffective pistol round when fired from a semi-auto pistol, and has little stopping power in a pistol versus a .45 ACP or a .50 AE round). When Eastern European countries joined NATO, they chucked their AKs and started using either American Colt M-16A2s or German H & K G-36 series assault rifles.

-Bases, we'd be willing to lend our bases, with prior approval, including Andoman & Nicobar Islands as well......but that can be sorted out at the summit if the summit idea is approved.
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Gov, it's a good offer, but I think all meetings should be held in Liberty City, EPTO's GQ.

-Gnidrah: Well, the sector commands are really just a way to designate which nations will be hosting EPTO soldiers, where commanders will meet to discuss their strategy, and which nations should react first. You see, if Govindia sends troops to EM, it isn't IOCOM units moving to EM; rather, Govindian troops just happen to be in EM. It's hard to explain, but soldiers do not belong to a certain command sector; they can be sent anywhere and it won't disrupt the system.

-Weapons: I think that, failing my idea, German weapons would be our best choice. They make extremely effective rifles, pistols, and machineguns, as well as armored vehicles and the like.

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Jun 29 2005, 10:50 AM
Gov, it's a good offer, but I think all meetings should be held in Liberty City, EPTO's GQ.

-Gnidrah: Well, the sector commands are really just a way to designate which nations will be hosting EPTO soldiers, where commanders will meet to discuss their strategy, and which nations should react first. You see, if Govindia sends troops to EM, it isn't IOCOM units moving to EM; rather, Govindian troops just happen to be in EM. It's hard to explain, but soldiers do not belong to a certain command sector; they can be sent anywhere and it won't disrupt the system.

-Weapons: I think that, failing my idea, German weapons would be our best choice. They make extremely effective rifles, pistols, and machineguns, as well as armored vehicles and the like.

but...my nation's bigger, and we'll have sushi!
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Your nations bigger? Somehow, I doubt that..
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Jun 29 2005, 04:04 PM
Your nations bigger? Somehow, I doubt that..

probably not by pop., but maybe by size.

Either way, i thought my offer was pretty good, ya know?
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Krechzianko
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No doubt, but FPS contains EPTO's main HQ. The secretary-general orders all soirees, shindigs, and box socials be held there unless I say otherwise.

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Jun 29 2005, 10:13 PM
No doubt, but FPS contains EPTO's main HQ. The secretary-general orders all soirees, shindigs, and box socials be held there unless I say otherwise.

Aren't you the Secretary-General?
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Jun 29 2005, 06:56 PM
Krechzianko
Jun 29 2005, 10:13 PM
No doubt, but FPS contains EPTO's main HQ.  The secretary-general orders all soirees, shindigs, and box socials be held there unless I say otherwise.

Aren't you the Secretary-General?

I thought he was. Hmm...

At any rate, I believe the convention should be held at EPTO's main headquarters, in FPS.
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Aren't you the Secretary-General?


I was speaking in the 3rd person...

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Republic of Govindia
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so what are everyone's thoughts so far on what everyone has said, and can we reach a consensus or something?
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Jun 29 2005, 09:52 PM
so what are everyone's thoughts so far on what everyone has said, and can we reach a consensus or something?

Such discussion and event should take place in the actual convention, which should be located in Liberty City, Free Pacific States. Might I take this moment to remind my fellow members that this thread is simply to gather topics to be discussed in the actual convention. As it is stated in the subtitle, this is merely the setup phase. I don't think any of the topics should be resolved in this thread.
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Jun 29 2005, 10:54 PM
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Jun 29 2005, 09:52 PM
so what are everyone's thoughts so far on what everyone has said, and can we reach a consensus or something?

Such discussion and event should take place in the actual convention, which should be located in Liberty City, Free Pacific States.

I meant OOC wise in terms of this thread.
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