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[OOCRP]Looplite-Govindian Situation; Combination of all threads, renamed
Topic Started: Aug 8 2005, 08:14:49 AM (1,067 Views)
Imatron
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Why must you insist on diobeying the laws of physics?
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that has nothing to do with laws of logic and laws of engineering
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Well, it does have a lot to do with the laws of this community. And on that note, Govindia, I am hereby issuing you an ultimatem!

If, by the time I awake on Sunday (Circa noon) you have not posted a response to Loop's declaration of war, ICly, I will officially overrule your RPing ability, and post a response for you, in order to maintain consistency and activity in the RP Community.


I do not wish to do this, and I hope you will post before then. But note that I must, and will.

Specific Terms of the Ultimatem can be found here.
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Aug 12 2005, 01:24 AM
Well, it does have a lot to do with the laws of this community. And on that note, Govindia, I am hereby issuing you an ultimatem!

If, by the time I awake on Sunday (Circa noon) you have not posted a response to Loop's declaration of war, ICly, I will officially overrule your RPing ability, and post a response for you, in order to maintain consistency and activity in the RP Community.

I do not wish to do this, and I hope you will post before then. But note that I must, and will.

Specific Terms of the Ultimatem can be found here.

lol @ link
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Aug 12 2005, 02:24 AM
Well, it does have a lot to do with the laws of this community. And on that note, Govindia, I am hereby issuing you an ultimatem!

If, by the time I awake on Sunday (Circa noon) you have not posted a response to Loop's declaration of war, ICly, I will officially overrule your RPing ability, and post a response for you, in order to maintain consistency and activity in the RP Community.


I do not wish to do this, and I hope you will post before then. But note that I must, and will.

Specific Terms of the Ultimatem can be found here.

you will withdraw that ultimatem dammit.....

you know what stuff I have this week and when I finish. How many times do I ask you to post and you ask me to be patient, which I have. Pay me the same courtesy FPS, I know you better than that......
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Gov, FPS is giving you an ample amount of time for you to post a response. You have approximately 53 hours, as of this post, to respond to Loop's declaration of war, or as the ultimatum states, FPS will be forced to post a response on your behalf. I suggest you make good use of such great number of hours, and post your own response.

Also, if you object to FPS' ruling, appeal it through the proper channels, as outlined for you before, rather than outright demanding the RP moderator reverse his decision. Please respect him and his decisions; he is doing his job. (Admins and/or moderators: please inform me if I am out of line, and I will apologize accordingly. Thank you.)

EDIT: Apparently I cannot count; I originally had 77 hours, and realized today is Friday. I need sleep.
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Aug 12 2005, 10:27 AM
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Aug 12 2005, 02:24 AM
Well, it does have a lot to do with the laws of this community. And on that note, Govindia, I am hereby issuing you an ultimatem!

If, by the time I awake on Sunday (Circa noon) you have not posted a response to Loop's declaration of war, ICly, I will officially overrule your RPing ability, and post a response for you, in order to maintain consistency and activity in the RP Community.


I do not wish to do this, and I hope you will post before then. But note that I must, and will.

Specific Terms of the Ultimatem can be found here.

you will withdraw that ultimatem dammit.....

you know what stuff I have this week and when I finish. How many times do I ask you to post and you ask me to be patient, which I have. Pay me the same courtesy FPS, I know you better than that......

Ah. Gov, you have been posting here alot... You could at the very least put down a short statement...

If you are worried about Loop pulling an AMF-style genocide on you, well FPS already said that he would not let him do that... I would not stand for it ether.

Also if you are trying to avoid war I gave you an opening in The Interview to try something diplomatically:

Fish Island
Aug 10 2005, 10:25 AM
Consul Nadatsula Angalida's tail twitched, well this was certainly unexpected...

"Given the serious nature of the situation," Nadatsula announced, "it seems that a recess is in order... But first do the observers from Govindia wish to explain themselves in this matter?"

Emphasis added.

:foxy:

So say something to the assembly or just sit there and get bombed! Your choice...

Also FPS... that link is a little harsh...
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I have just talked with Govindia, and he has asked me to relay a plea for leniency here... Which I shall do:

He says that he only has a few days of his co-op left (until Tuesday... Until that time he shall be very busy), and at this job he spends 10-11 hours at work. After Tuesday he shall be free to post a lot more on this site, as for posting something now he says that he needs time to think and plan as he does not wish war with Loop and asks that FPS please be more reasonable in this matter.
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that's pretty much accurate, but to add more onto that.

It's a lot quicker to post OOC stuff than IC stuff when at work, save for really really brief stuff. It takes a lot more thought to do IC stuff than OOC stuff, and with what I've been doing at work, and what I will be doing at work for today, Mon., and Tues. (excluding 5 hours on Sunday), I don't know how much IC time I have. AFter I finish Tues., I'll be able to post more stuff than I've been doing. FPS should know this, as I talked to him about this and other things last night. I'm anticipating some downtime later today, but i am not real sure.....

we got one intern who was in my office fired, part of which was using a concealed vid camera in the ceiling to see in our office what stuff he had in his bag, and now that i'm seeing wires dangling outside of a ceiling panel outside my office, i really gotta be careful about what i post, but I'll post when I can and when I can post something that I feel is quality.
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Farkitall this happens every time you are confronted with something in game
no matter what it is, you always say

"I need time to make a response, there is (hectic sdhedual at work/deadline to be met at work/insert random complaint here) and my time is limited for (a few days/5 days/the next week)"

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Don't make demands of me, Govindia. Your not my boss.

That said, for seperate reasoning, seeable in the appeals thread, I'm withdrawing the ultimatem. I need to decide whether the declaration is a GodMod before I demand you respond to it.

Furthermore, just so everyone knows..the link was just a joke. No offense intended.
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Aug 12 2005, 02:05 PM
Farkitall this happens every time you are confronted with something in game
no matter what it is, you always say

"I need time to make a response, there is (hectic sdhedual at work/deadline to be met at work/insert random complaint here) and my time is limited for (a few days/5 days/the next week)"

no i do not. If you have no idea about how things go in a software development career, don't try to assume or talk on the topic.
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no worries now,
A winner is YOU!
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Bah... i kept my mouth shut for a while because i wasnt sure if it was my business or not, or if i cared.

However, the way i see it... the incident in question happened, and IC loop reacted a certain way. Instead of complaining OOC, causing even more tension, Govinda should have found a diplomatic way to avoid war IC. The circumstances of the lightsaber, or the assassination dont matter... it all happened though, and Infinite Loop government reacted violently and harshly. Thats the way the cookie crumbles, in my opinion Govindia could have avoided a war by pleading with the Infinite Loop government and trying to explain what happened.

None of that happened, there wasnt a single IC response by Govindia to even try to resolve the situation and avoid an international incident. Instead, he chose to come to the OOC forum and bitch about it beause it didnt happen the way he wanted.

Now after this whole thing, how can we serperate OOC and IC? It's just been strained sooo much by this whole ordeal, that we cant see the state of Govindia as anything above weak, arrogant, and a nuisance.
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wrong on all counts.

As of last night, when I talked with Loop, FPS, Pax, and Gnidrah last night after the appeal thread was started, we agreed that I would be posting sometime this weekend when I could, and that I would go along with this.

This was before Codex posted this morning, and the resulting decisions.

That's all I have to say for the moment, for if I say anything more someone else might just take this way too personal.

God [Fark]ing dammit....
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How can i be wrong?... i just gave my opinion.

Thats why you get people riled up.
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it looked like you were accusing me of something, and that's why i had to prove you wrong on your opinion
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Ill say this, My nation reacted as it did because

OOC, I know it was an accidental detonation

IC Lord Yuba saw a Jedi takeout hsi light saber and detonate it to prevent capture
therefore he relayed an intentional detonation by enemy agents in a very secure place

and yes, Krech is corret on the super hardline against terrorist, I was that way.
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I'd like to note the following additions to Krech culture IC. In-character. Not out-of-character.

-Every day, instead of singing the anthem or the pledge of allegiance, students watch a short film with Alec Trevelyan on the screen. Behind him, stock film of a Govindian military parade plays as children shout and throw their textbooks at the screen. This is an exercise so the students can express their hatred of the NATION of Govindia. Not the player.

-Daily burnings of the Govind flag take place in major cities; citizens enjoy their chance to spit on the orange, white, and green-striped emblem before it is set aflame. Soldiers then march over the charred remains of the flags.

-All missiles will be prepared to launch at all times, and will be aimed at New Delhi. Even the slightest provocation will lead to Marshall Brownoff's order for launch (then to be followed by a request to FPS, naturally).

Thus, I've decided that Krechzianko despises Govindia in every imaginable way. No diplomacy shall take place, no false friendliness will be expressed during summits, and the EPTO Secretary-General will avoid speaking with his Govindian counterpart whenever possible. furthermore, all citizens of the above nation are hereby considered 'Enemies of the People' the lowest rank possibly bestowed on a person in the eyes of Krech citizens. Should a war ever begin, Krech troops will show no mercy when confronting Govinds, military or civilian.

Thank you for your time. Note that this is all in-character, and not out-of-character. I am not godmodding, as Loop was accused of doing. I am merely reflecting Krechzianko's hatred of its capitalist enemies across the sea.

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