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Criminal Trial CTC1: TEP Vs. East Shlibobia; Trial Portions B-E: Trial
Topic Started: Apr 12 2007, 08:47:51 PM (4,108 Views)
Kangarawa
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Your Honour,

To keep both you and the Prosecution apprised of the situation, it has now been four days since my client logged on to his nation. He is not wilfully ignoring the request to appear.
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I am present for the trial. I was away on vacation for a week. My apologies.
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No problem, East.

To begin, allow me to swear you in officially. Do you promise to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, for the entirety of your upcoming testimony?
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I do.
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Alright, then. Prosecutor, please proceed.
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What is the status of the case in question?
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At this time, we are continuing to wait for the prosecution to begin its direct examination of you.

Prosecutor, would you please begin?
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I beg both the Court’s and above all the defendant’s pardon. Honestly, I hadn’t seen the former reply at all.

(*stands and moves in front of the defendant*)

East Shlibobia, I know you’ve already sworn to answer the truth to my question. Anyhow, I’d like you to be aware you have the right to remain silent. Should you decide not to use it, whatever you’ll say could (and probably will) be used against you in the present proceeding. Is that clear enough? In case of an affirmative answer, are you ready for the exam to start?
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I am aware and ready for questions.
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Again, I am fully aware of my right to remain silent. However, I am prepared to answer all questions pertaining to the case. I am ready.
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If the prosecution would please proceed...
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Alright, this is just getting pathetic. It has been several weeks since the last post by the prosecution. Which, in and of itself, wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact that this is the third time the prosecution has simply stopped posting for long periods.

Frankly, I'm sick of waiting, and I'm not just going to let this person be banned without trial because the state is too lazy or too busy to present their case.

The prosecution has 72 hours to continue its case. If it has not done so by the end of that period, I will dismiss this case and order the ban lifted.
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East Shlibobia, here's my first set of questions for you.

1. At the time of the examined facts you've been able to endorse a number of East Pacific nations before being banned. Moreover, after such banning you've been able to move away from the Rejected Realms and reach your new region, MUSIC. Such things suggest that at the time of the facts you were familiar with the basic rules of the NS game. Do you agree with this affirmation?

2. Both in case of a positive and of a negative answer to my former question, at the time of the creation of your "EAST SHLIBOBIA" national account you've had the chance to see your region's message board. Is it correct?

3. In order to attend this court case, you seem to have been able to reach the regional forum with no difficulties. Would you please explain us all whwether there was something which prevented you to do it at the time of your nation's creation?
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To answer your questions in order...

1.) Yes, I was familiar with the basics. The bare minimum basics.
2.) No, I did not. I was not aware that one existed.
3.) My attorney explained to me how to go about registering on this message board. Prior to that time, I was not familiar with the process of registering or even using this forum.
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*Yawn* :humpty:
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Aug 14 2007, 01:21 AM
To answer your questions in order...

1.) Yes, I was familiar with the basics.  The bare minimum basics.
2.) No, I did not.  I was not aware that one existed.
3.) My attorney explained to me how to go about registering on this message board.  Prior to that time, I was not familiar with the process of registering or even using this forum.

[OOC]I am sorry I was on holiday[/OOC]

Referring to your answer nr. 2, I beg your pardon for the probable misunderstanding, East Shlibobia.

When I asked you
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2. Both in case of a positive and of a negative answer to my former question, at the time of the creation of your "EAST SHLIBOBIA" national account you've had the chance to see your region's message board. Is it correct?

with the expression regional message board (RMB) I meant the page identified by

this link

and not the www.theeastpacific.com webpage of the forum.

Given the precisation, East Shlibobia, would you reconsider your answer or would you confirm it?
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Welcome back from your holiday! As for the question, I confirm my original answer. I was not aware that one existed.
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Aug 30 2007, 02:47 AM
Welcome back from your holiday!  As for the question, I confirm my original answer.  I was not aware that one existed.

Uhm... East Shlibobia, at the time of the banning you had scattered 248 endorsements throughout the whole East Pacific (Your Honour, please note this is a fact the defence cannot to contest according to the pre-trial agreement).

According to my expereience, to give an endo, you have to locate a UN nation in your same region and then proceed. Would you please explain us all how have you been able to do it without passing through the RMB webpage? Namely, could you please give us a step-by-step idiot-proof procedure, so that each of us will be able to replicate it?
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Prosecutor, I do dearly hope none of us intends to replicate it. :)

Jokes aside, the defendant may proceed to answer the question.
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Aug 30 2007, 05:20 PM
Prosecutor, I do dearly hope none of us intends to replicate it. :)

[OOC]Damn... my secret plan to flood TEP of endospamming and then takeover the Delegacy has just been detected... evasive manoeuvres! ;) [/OOC]

(*waits*)
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Reziel said..."According to my expereience, to give an endo, you have to locate a UN nation in your same region and then proceed. Would you please explain us all how have you been able to do it without passing through the RMB webpage? Namely, could you please give us a step-by-step idiot-proof procedure, so that each of us will be able to replicate it?"

East Shlibobia says..."Your sarcasm amuses me. Similar to that of Alan Shore's on "Boston Legal." Ever see the show? It is a smash hit, absolutely smashing...Oh, to answer your question, here is your idiot proof response: I viewed my delegate's (Gnidrah) page and noticed the different people that endorsed him. From there, all I did was endorse the same people and it went from there. I saw no harm in it. I wasn't aware of any consequences. In fact, I thought it would be a good thing to endorse other nations - if any, for unity with our region. I didn't view it as a power struggle or threat at all. Is that idiot proof enough?"
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It is, East Shlibobia.

I still have a question, though. At the time of the facts, Gnid had received 236 endorsements. You've sent 248 of them. I'm still a bit perplexed.

How did you "reach" those 12 missing nations? I would guess that, just for unity with the region, you've... uhm... kept some kind of cross-and-recross record of some kind which helped you locating those nations who HADN'T endorsed Gnidrah, but at the same time they had endorsed some of his endorsers. But I realize it's not my task to guess, so I simply ask you: how did you reach those 12 nations?
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Well, my friend...it is alright that I refer to you as "friend" right? I mean, we all essentially are friends. In our own little ways, some liked and disliked, we are all trying to establish this region as a strong, united one. Prior to this misunderstanding (aka trial), I have not caused any type of intentional coup or problem or overthrow or whatever you'd like to refer to it as. Nor have I done anything since. I believe that I am a model (a simple one) nation. To be banished from a nation because I wasn't aware of the rules is ridiculous. I did not even receive any type of warning or message from Gnidrah.

To be honest with you, all I can say is that I reached those other nations through the "six degrees of Kevin Bacon" system. I went on Gnidrah's page, contacted a nation that endorsed him, searched their respective page, found some nation that had not yet endorsed Gnidrah, and I endorsed that nation. I guess that is a little wordy, but I think that explains it. To sound like a broken record again, I did not want to challenge his position in the region. It was a mistake, an ignorant one, and that is it.

But you know what is really "perplexing?" It is the fact that this trial is taking forever to do and complete. It is because you have no grounds to prosecute me. You are stalling and have no real plan. So, here is my suggestion. Get to the meat and potatoes of your plan and be straight with me. Let's get this over with so that we don't continue to drag the judicial system through the mud. Given how you are wasting time, it is YOU that is threatening this region with your watered down questioning. You are the threat, not me. Maybe I should be the one questioning you (well, I guess I am in a way). Thank you. :-)
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A note for the record: in the absence of his provided attorney, East Shlibobia has chosen to defend himself. Which leaves him the full rights of an attorney in this trial, even while he is on the stand.

You may proceed, prosecutor.
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Sep 3 2007, 10:32 PM
A note for the record: in the absence of his provided attorney, East Shlibobia has chosen to defend himself. Which leaves him the full rights of an attorney in this trial, even while he is on the stand.

You may proceed, prosecutor.


East_Sh123
Sep 3 2007, 04:58 PM
Well, my friend...it is alright that I refer to you as "friend" right?  I mean, we all essentially are friends.  In our own little ways, some liked and disliked, we are all trying to establish this region as a strong, united one.  Prior to this misunderstanding (aka trial), I have not caused any type of intentional coup or problem or overthrow or whatever you'd like to refer to it as.  Nor have I done anything since.  I believe that I am a model (a simple one) nation.  To be banished from a nation because I wasn't aware of the rules is ridiculous.  I did not even receive any type of warning or message from Gnidrah. 

To be honest with you, all I can say is that I reached those other nations through the "six degrees of Kevin Bacon" system.  I went on Gnidrah's page, contacted a nation that endorsed him, searched their respective page, found some nation that had not yet endorsed Gnidrah, and I endorsed that nation.  I guess that is a little wordy, but I think that explains it.  To sound like a broken record again, I did not want to challenge his position in the region.  It was a mistake, an ignorant one, and that is it.

But you know what is really "perplexing?"  It is the fact that this trial is taking forever to do and complete.  It is because you have no grounds to prosecute me.  You are stalling and have no real plan.  So, here is my suggestion.  Get to the meat and potatoes of your plan and be straight with me.  Let's get this over with so that we don't continue to drag the judicial system through the mud.  Given how you are wasting time, it is YOU that is threatening this region with your watered down questioning.  You are the threat, not me.  Maybe I should be the one questioning you (well, I guess I am in a way).  Thank you. :-)

(*sighs*) Your Honor, both the first and the last paragraph of the Defendant’s answer are personal evaluations which have nothing to do nor with my former question nor with the ongoing trial. The Defendant is here to answer questions and nothing else. His personal beliefs are irrelevant. On the contrary, the Defending Attorney will have plenty of occasions to delight us all with his speeches… at the appropriate time. I.e. not during the eyewitnesses’ examination.

Moreover, as Solicitor General of the region I cannot accept the Defendant’s (Defending Attorney’s?) insinuations referring to mine threat towards the region and therefore I formally ask them to be stricken from the records.

As for the meat and potatoes, Defendant, you’re free to think I’m stalling. We’ll see. Now… Defending Attorney, you can freely cross-examine the Defendant, if you want to. Your Honor, I obviously reserve myself the right to re-cross the Defendant.

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Gentlemen, why don't we take a deep breath and just calm down a little, eh? I'm not much liking the hostility that is coursing through this thread.

As much as I'd like to disagree with you on this point, Reziel, I'm afraid, as I re-read his post again and again, that I cannot. Both the first and third paragraphs of the defendant's response were wholly and completely irrelevant to the question. They are hereby stricken from the record.

East Shlibobia, you are now free to make a statement of unlimited length. If you'd like, you may question yourself, as your attorney might question you. Or, if you would prefer, you may simply speak freely. The choice is yours. If you do go with the question format, the prosecution will have the right to object to the questions you pose to yourself. If you go with the statement format, the prosecution will still be able to make objection to your speech, though you will receive much more leniency then you will in your closing statement.

Please, proceed.
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Thank you.

I've made the TRUTH clear and simple - this was an ignorant mistake made by a delightful newcomer (East Shlibobia/me) with no criminal record before or since. If anything, I motion to dismiss the case due to lack of evidence and lack of harmful intent. This is a witch-hunt.

With that being said, the defense rests as I have no additional questions for the witness/myself.
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(*shaking his head, being barely able to stifle an amused and amicable smile, the SG grins*)

Uh... no re-cross needed, Your Honor. Which means that, considering the present and exceptional circumstances, the Prosecution does not have more eyewitnesses to examine.









[OOC]Just a note. I'm sorry if I've given you two an "hostile" impression. That wasn't my intent, honest.[/OOC]
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Oh, wow, a lot of stuff just happened. Sadly, half of it might not have been intentional.

To begin, Shlibobia, the defense can't rest until its began presenting its case. Now, if you'd like to call no witnesses and present no evidence and proceed to closing statements, so be it. But you cannot rest until you've begun, I'm afraid, so...yea.

The witness is excused with the thanks of the court.

Reziel, I'm interpreting your statement to mean that the prosecution has rested, as you can do nothing else during this period of the trial except call witnesses (well, and present evidence, but you've no more evidence to present to my knowledge).

East Shlibobia, you have motioned for me to dismiss this case on lack of merit. This is, actually, an entirely normal motion to to make at this point in the trial. At least, in the US Criminal Justice System, it is. For this reason, I will now seriously consider this motion. I'll try to get a decision out immediately. Until this, this trial is in recess.
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Reziel, I'm interpreting your statement to mean that the prosecution has rested, as you can do nothing else during this period of the trial except call witnesses (well, and present evidence, but you've no more evidence to present to my knowledge).

That's what I meant, Your Honor.
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