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Inactive Nations; Recommendations for Pruning
Topic Started: Sep 25 2007, 06:47:39 PM (1,116 Views)
Free Pacific States
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Number One Drone
Kelssek, the following is a listing of the status of all nations currently on the East Pacific Map. With any hope, it will be of assistance to you in your work, as it has been in the past.

There should be no objection to your removing the inactives and ineligibles.

Alphabetical List of Plot-Holding Nations
1 Infinite Loop
11 Dimensions
Airbus UK
Al-Jafaar
Algaisia
Anglo Europe
Appanoose County
Arvengovi
Autumnwindz
Bai Lung
Bakanda
Bakostrovia
Beejonica
Black Panther Cats
Blanchettia
Bolshikstan
Cable and Wireless
Caneiga
Codex
Conservative Cajuns
Coocoostan
Dannistaan
Dinarastan
Dovakhan
East Malyasia
Emperor Matthius
Fish Island
Free Pacific States
Fujian
Gnidrah
HoopHoopLand
Hypnosia
Imatron
Inquisitor Nation, The
Intracircumcordei
Jericho & Nablus
Kandarin
Kangarawa
Kelssek
Krechzianko
Korea
Kurogasa
Lady Rebels
Lazlowia
Lofturior
Marclenia
Megalocyathus
Milesandia
Nouveau Bretagne
New Allon
Nnyobriugium
Packilvania
Playstation Portable
Pommpistan
Quy
Ratcut
Razvanus
Really Nice Hats
Renish
Reziel
Rovlofth
Runsfield
Rylian
Samonides
Scientific Dunces
Seekers of G-D
Sparta Nuva
Spectacular Pastries
Terasu
Terrible Panic, The
Torfaen
Trioni
Vladistock Island
Wachovia Coalition, The
Xiopothos
Yeaagh

Active East Pacific Citizens
1 Infinite Loop
Bai Lung
Bakostrovia
Codex
Coocoostan
Dannistaan
Dovakhan
East Malyasia
Emperor Matthius
Fish Island
Free Pacific States
Gnidrah
Kandarin
Kangarawa
Kelssek
Lazlowia
Packilvania
Playstation Portable
Really Nice Hats
Reziel
Terasu
Vladistock Island

Active East Pacific Residents
Runsfield
Scientific Dunces

Puppet Nations/RP Proxies
Airbus UK (Reziel)
HoopHoopLand (Packilvania)
Korea (1 Infinite Loop)
Megalocyathus (1 Infinite Loop)
Samonides (Krechzianko/Vladistock)
Trioni (The Wachovia Coalition)

Protected Nations
Algaisia
Blanchettia
Black Panther Cats
Blanchettia
Imatron
Krechzianko
Milesandia
Nouveau Bretagne
Samonides
Sparta Nuva
Spectacular Pastries
Wachovia Coalition, The
Xiopothos
Yeaagh

Special Eligibility
LadyRebels

Inactive Nations
11 Dimensions
Anglo Europe
Appanoose County
Autumnwindz
Bakanda
Beejonica
Bolshikstan
Cable and Wireless
Caneiga
Conservative Cajuns
Dinarastan
Hypnosia
Inquisitor Nation, The
Jericho & Nablus
Lofturior
Marclenia
New Allon
Nnyobriugium
Pommpistan
Quy
Ratcut
Razvanus
Renish
Rovloft
Rylian
Seekers of G-D
Torfaen

Ineligible Nations
Arvengovi (Non-EP Resident)
Kurogasa (Non-EP Resident)
Intracircumcordei (Non-EP Resident)
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Kelssek
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Just so the policy's clear: any of the plots listed above as inactive or ineligible can be claimed, subject to map mod's approval.
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Infinite Loop
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I suggest that we completely purge all nations on the map that are not Active and we take all the historircal nations down to one plot so that the map is not cluttered with people wha have not been here in a long time.

in case it is needed here is the last clean version I had. admitably it is missing some of the added islands but it is a clean copy so I also give up Korea.

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drakkengard
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I would like to reclaim plots 80, 98 and 100 for Drakkengard since they weŽre mine in the old map. And i would like to claim plot 101 to finally unite my country in a single piece of land...

p.s.: If plot 101 still protected, then i would like to claim the bottom half of plot 99 as discussed with Haor months ago.

p.s.2.: Warr, you claimed 161 and 167, or 161,162,163,164,165,166 and 167?
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Free Pacific States
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I'd want 103-107 and 112 again.
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I would deffly like to keep.....113, 117-20, and 122-4
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Lazlowia
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Oh, everybody want's their big nation to stay. There will be not plot free by the end, I tell you. Anyway, I wan't to keep all of my former territories and add 140 and 66 to it.
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Reziel
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No limits and/or guidelines? I mean... each of us just come here and say "i want plots 1-99" and we're fine?

Laz is not that wrong...




However, if it's so... i claim plots 1-99 and therefore i declare war on Laz for plot 66 and on drak for plot 99

:P :riot:
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Reziel
Mar 29 2008, 09:26 AM
No limits and/or guidelines? I mean... each of us just come here and say "i want plots 1-99" and we're fine?

Laz is not that wrong...




However, if it's so... i claim plots 1-99 and therefore i declare war on Laz for plot 66 and on drak for plot 99

:P :riot:

Whoho, a war! Violence at last! Let's get to the battlefield, my friend!

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Dovakhan
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Because I've developed my national history along those lines, I'd like all my territories if we're to adopt this map :D.

So, I'd like 89 and 57 for metropolitan territories, please. 157 is a supplementary territory known as "Dovakhanese Baikal."
Holy CRAP! This is the Dovahkiin!
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Terasu
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Could I have 141 still? And seeming as you're give up Korea, I'll steal that too? :P

Also, I think it's reasonable to have a 2-3 plot limit at the moment. To me it seems a bad idea to have HUGE nations taking up room on the map while we are trying to attract new members. Defeats the object of clearing the map if everyone decides to land grab all the plots.

If my point of view is terribly skewed, then I'll also take plot 142 and challenge Reziel for plot 144 :P
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but i'm an asshole with computer graphics

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Hmm. Perhaps a smaller plot limit wouldn't be such a bad idea...
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drakkengard
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Ok, Rez! Is this how you want to play??? Then i claim plots 000-171! Bwahahaha! And iŽll nuke all those who complain! :riot:

Talking seriously now, i think those who are still active should have the right to retain their plots. For although i certainly support actions like loop giving up Korea to "free" more plots, it was his decision. No one should be forced to give up on plots already taken.

About the inactives, they should be all cleared. IŽm sorry for the nations with historic value but, unless the former player rejoin tep, i still believe its more important have free plots to attract new players and allow those who already are here to expand.

On expansion. I support Terasu idea of 2-3 plot limit at the moment. Or else weŽll end up with a map fully claimed before attracting more than a few new players.

So, my plot claims for expansion would be 101,126 and 53 (if we settle for a 3 plots limit).
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Terasu
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Thanks Drakkengard ^_^

In NS terms, the plots are huge anyway. My single plot supports over 2 billion people - Packilvania has 200 billion people.

I'm happy with my single plot for the moment but as soon as everything settles I'm going to invade Korea :riot:

Perhaps we should have it so everyone retains their old plots, so people who before had 2 plots, have 2 plots now. It would be much more interesting if you had to RP expansion into unclaimed territory, or maybe even invented a country to take up the plot you're about to invade.
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but i'm an asshole with computer graphics

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Lazlowia
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OK, so seriously, I try to explain my plots. Central Lazlowia is plot 141. Thats plot #1. Now actually I always thought that Lazlowgrad is in the place of the real life city called Cebu. But that is actually on plot 140 on this map. So that I why I want it, as plot #2. North Lazlowia, which was formerly algaisian territory is the right half of plots 75 and 76. Since they are only half a territory each, they add up as one as plot #3. I drop my claim for territory 66 and then we are all happy, I hope. ^_^
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Welshlend
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O cool I want to keep my current territory (31) and annex Jericho Nablus and I would like to claim 30 if thats not to much of a hastle But I definetly want to keep 31 (my current location) and annex Jerich Nabulus
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I want the space currently occupied by Xiopothos. However, it should be a grey Occupied Territory, not a colored map space marked Kandarin. Kandarin proper is not on the map and will not be on the map.
"Torpored Caitiff Antediluvian"

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Kandarin should just implode from the sheer ridiculousness of it all.
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I mean, no nation could ever sustain that many contradicting belief systems and still exist.
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Terasu
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I think Loop was just posting the map as an example rather than a definite, final map. We need loads more islands... And Kandarin's Xiopothos is missing too.
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but i'm an asshole with computer graphics

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drakkengard
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126 and 53 should be ocuppied territories. And Terasu, i foresse an korean war in TEP, coz iŽll want a piece of that too! :riot:
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That was teh version I had made before the islands were added.
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Kelssek
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...and to quell the excitement, I don't plan on recognising all these claims for the simple reason that unless someone with the authority overrules me, we're not starting over.
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Kelssek
Mar 31 2008, 12:02 PM
...and to quell the excitement, I don't plan on recognising all these claims for the simple reason that unless someone with the authority overrules me, we're not starting over.

And who has that authority?
"Torpored Caitiff Antediluvian"

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Kandarin should just implode from the sheer ridiculousness of it all.
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I mean, no nation could ever sustain that many contradicting belief systems and still exist.
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Terasu
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Heh, that just crushed everyone's dreams... :P
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Free Pacific States
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Kelssek is correct. It is entirely wrong to alter the current map on account of EP+10.

We should, truly, have a second map for EP+10.
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Terasu
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It would be so much easier to fast forward everything to +10. We could still keep the "present day" Shiro but view it as something which "happened in the past" and we could still perhaps RP events from the past but they'd follow a set plot.

Here's a quick but terrible example of how it could go wrong. Nation A claims Plot 10 in the +10 Forum, then Nation B signs up to the forums and claims Plot 10 in the "present day" forum. Nation B has no intentions of relinquishing Plot 10 in 10 years time in character. Surely you can see an issue in this?

We can't have 2 separate timelines running together, at some point or anything some event will happen which will completely contradict something which happened in +10 or vice versa.

In my opinion we can either stick with the Present Day timeline or we can transfer to the +10 plot, not both.

We also need to clear up the map, get rid of the dead nations. Due to the amount of posts supporting this from other members I'm not going to give the reasons again.
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Lazlowia
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Yes, I agree too. When I arrived, I was really confused with the huge ammount og nations. And mind you, the forum was much more active that time. Still, I don't think that even those nations, who were active than but not now are just holding up space should be spared. I this world, there is no place for sentimentalism.

On the other hand, I don't think this will solve everything.
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Mar 31 2008, 03:47 PM
And urinated on any sense of democracy here

Agree or disagree, but keep the inflammatory comments to a minimum. We're all friends here.

I think it's safe to say at this point that the non-10+ timeline isn't going anywhere. There will not be new nations putting themselves on that map. Kelssek, if you're so intent on preserving it, then it can be kept in perpetuity as the past map. Regardless, the fact is that all of the board administration who have anything to do with RPs, to say nothing of the RP community at large, have agreed upon the +10 move. Furthermore, it's already been established in multiple threads that massive changes to the map have occurred.

Either a complete new +10 map is to be created, or EPRP will have no map at all. Those are the options.
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Kandarin should just implode from the sheer ridiculousness of it all.
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I mean, no nation could ever sustain that many contradicting belief systems and still exist.
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drakkengard
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I understand that any change bring trouble, and that with a new map weŽll have a lot of work, but as we see from the slow cancerous death thread, most of us already realized that the time for change is now. That is change or die.

I myself didnŽt liked the idea of changing our timeline at first but, as i knew we had to change, and since i didnŽt had a better idea to offer, i supported the side i found more acceptable (go forward in time) instead of fighting the change. The result is that i already see it was the right decision. We may not have new members yet, but the renewed interest of our regulars already is worth the change. And thanks to Haor posts and Warr/Kandarin initiative, i feel confident that soon weŽll have more players coming.

Leaving the map overcrowded as it not only scare new players, making them believe there is no room for them here, but also frustrate many regulars because we see no room for expansion.

Therefore, i support the creation of a new +10 map (because maps are cool!). And we can always keep the old map in the forum archive to safeguard the name who were important in TEP past.
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Reziel
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Whoa... I can barely believe what I'm seeing. Terasu is active and posts more-tha-one-line comments!

:P

Aside this... Kelssek, please. Let's make some considerations. Half of the "oldies" whose nation take 75% of the map space are simply... vanished. That's not a critic. things happen. But trying to play as if they could return... well... in teh long run, this will kill the region.

My friend, you yourself are not here anymore, de facto. Does it mean people are trying to overrule you, or top "make as if you had never existed"? Nope. We're only struggling for a dream. To keep this place alive. A place you've enjoyed... a place which is now others' turn to enjoy.
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I'm going to have to agree with the majority, on this one. In an effort to best coincide with the +10 and "clean slate" agendas, I say let's have a new, less-cluttered map for them, and maintain the current map as a "present day/historial" map. Let's try that and see how it goes. Thanks.
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