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Official map request thread (v2)
Topic Started: Apr 4 2008, 07:38:36 AM (1,487 Views)
Kelssek
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Request away. At a certain point I will replace the current map with v2, so be sure you get what you want.
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Kandarin
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Could I get Xiopothos replaced with a grey occupied territory run by Kandarin?

It shouldn't be actually labeled Kandarin as this would send the wrong idea.
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Kandarin should just implode from the sheer ridiculousness of it all.
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I mean, no nation could ever sustain that many contradicting belief systems and still exist.
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Lazlowia
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OK, to make it simple:

Split territory 76 and 75 in half. The right halfs of these are Lazlowian territory, the left halfs are Algaisia. Also, that tip, that perinsula on territory 140 or 140, don't know, 'cause its missing from this map, or better, the whole territory.
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Welshlend
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umm can I have plot 30 since its one of the smallest territories on the map...
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Terasu
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I'm guessing the plot limit is 4-5?

Could I get plot 141 and 142 please?

Kelssek, would it be possibly for you to get a blown up image of Korea? Perhaps we could use a map of it for the RP. But for reference, I intend to claim atleast K6 and K7 as my own in the RP :P
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Well, i´m glad to be back on the map. :)

Before requesting, i just want to point out that plot 98 already was mine before the "reset", and that my capital is missing...

That said, i request plot 101 as part of my territory (finally joining it in a single piece of land!), and plots 126 and 159 as grey occupied territories run by Drakkengard.

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Welshlend
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ohh well in the cas eof being able to have 4-5 I would like 30, 41, 52
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Kelssek
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Warr and Welshlend, I'm sorry to say you haven't the in-game population, or been around long enough, to justify all the extra plots.
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Welshlend
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dang not even the small territory of 30 I mean come on its almost as big luxembourg but if not okay i guess thats fine..
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Kelssek
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Apr 5 2008, 01:41 AM
I won't have room for a plot aside from my islands for a -very- long time, and I'll have to get all the RPing I've done just deleted.

Just because it isn't reflected on the map doesn't mean it doesn't exist or can't happen, for Zarquon's sake calm down.
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Kelssek
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Apr 4 2008, 01:09 PM
OK, to make it simple:

Split territory 76 and 75 in half. The right halfs of these are Lazlowian territory, the left halfs are Algaisia. Also, that tip, that perinsula on territory 140 or 140, don't know, 'cause its missing from this map, or better, the whole territory.

I'd rather not go splitting the plots here and there. If you want I can seperate the two though.
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Terasu
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I would like K7 coloured in as occupied territory of Terasu if possible.
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Lazlowia
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Kelssek
Apr 5 2008, 07:51 AM
Lazlow
Apr 4 2008, 01:09 PM
OK, to make it simple:

Split territory 76 and 75 in half. The right halfs of these are Lazlowian territory, the left halfs are Algaisia. Also, that tip, that perinsula on territory 140 or 140, don't know, 'cause its missing from this map, or better, the whole territory.

I'd rather not go splitting the plots here and there. If you want I can seperate the two though.

Yes, please. I would very much appreciate that. Just to keep those territories the way they were, like on the current map.
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I don't completely understand what's going on, so, erm...

What about me? :blink:
You'll never be completely rid of me.
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Apr 5 2008, 08:15 PM
I don't completely understand what's going on, so, erm...

What about me? :blink:

Find some map plots you like and request them. One's old slots are the best and most likely choices, but in your case I say pick whatever you please.
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Kandarin should just implode from the sheer ridiculousness of it all.
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I mean, no nation could ever sustain that many contradicting belief systems and still exist.
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After getting tired, I thought to make a map of my own. Here's what I've done so far. It's not complete.

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Bai Lung
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Can I have my old plots back, please? :)

I need the mainland territories (45, 46, 16, 17 and 18.) and the 3 smaller islands (the 2 small ones to the west of Bai Lung and the disputed island situated Jong Il Shan/Lord Howard island between Bai Lung and Dannistaan as seen in above.) surrounding Bai Lung because it's integral to the RP threads (Shadows of the White Dragon and Interim Admin in trouble) and me, you, Dovakhan, Dannistaan and to a lesser extent FPS and Coocoostan are posting since my country is occupied by 4 (perhaps 5 ;)) different nations. By removing my plots and the 3 smaller islands, you've accidentally retcon months of RPing.

Another (very trivial and not important) reason why I need the plots is due to the high population of my country. It would be a little bit silly to stick 1.3 billion people into the one island. :P
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"They whine about discrimination. Do you know who is being discriminated against? The Hal'vonnist people of Dannistaan, the ones who created this nation... I am talking about the Dannistrian Hal'vonnist people of the North as well as the East...Communism is racial! A racial minority seized control in Bai Lung and in all her satellite states such as Kelssek, Dovakhan and the Free Pacific States, and many other countries I could name."

-Kelly Minn'ow-Jones, former leader of the Dannistrian National Party
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Before anyone else says "I need a massive number of plots to justify my massive population" I'd like to point out two things:

1) Your RP population does not need to correspond to your NS population. Indeed, many people don't. Loop has over 10 billion people in NS but RPs a population roughly the size of Japan (after I talked him out of an estimate of "a few million at most"...or at least I think I talked him out of it). On the flip side, Reziel RPed a nation of billions that has never even existed in NS.

This is for the best. Not everyone wants to RP a super-gigantic nation, which NS nations usually become. This gives them other options. Besides, if you pegged your RP population to your NS population it'd gain billions of people in a few years. I know we take a lot of liberties with reality here, but that's patently ludicrous.

2) There is no scale on our map. Yes, it's mostly shaped the same, and there is a Korea, and an East Malaysia (albeit in the wrong place and not populated by Malaysians) but our map is not Asia and there is nothing that says it's the same size. It is open to very large and very small interpretations. You're free to decide, within some reason, how much land area your plots contain.

Scale would be more of an issue if we fought as many player-nation versus player-nation wars as other NSRP groups, but we don't, so it isn't.

In short, if you explain it well enough you can get away with a lot more than you think.

BL, if I were you I wouldn't be worried about the need to acquire enough map plots to realistically house your population. While needing that much land is realistic, gaining a billion people in a few years (even with BL's rabbit-like birth rate) isn't, and then there's the question of exactly how an impoverished and war-torn island nation transported a billion people to an inland colony surrounded by territories that aren't all that friendly.
"Torpored Caitiff Antediluvian"

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Kandarin should just implode from the sheer ridiculousness of it all.
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I mean, no nation could ever sustain that many contradicting belief systems and still exist.
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157 is Dovakhanese-occupied Baikal Territory if you decide to retain the Baikal Sea in the new map...

I not, jk! :D

P.S. Very good work!
Holy CRAP! This is the Dovahkiin!
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Apr 5 2008, 11:40 PM
BL, if I were you I wouldn't be worried about the need to acquire enough map plots to realistically house your population. While needing that much land is realistic, gaining a billion people in a few years (even with BL's rabbit-like birth rate) isn't, and then there's the question of exactly how an impoverished and war-torn island nation transported a billion people to an inland colony surrounded by territories that aren't all that friendly.


Like I mentioned before, acquiring my old plots (and the 3 little islands around BL) has got very little (in fact, nothing) to do with population, it's because of the Bai Lung related RP threads me, Kelssek, Dannistaan, Dovakhan, FPS and Coocoostan are posting currently means that the 3 small islands and my old plots are integral to the RP (read this thread and this thread to understand why I need to retain them).

By reducing my plot to just one, that would defeat the purpose of posting the number of RP posts we've all been making in the first place if my old plots fail to show up in the revised script. That means retcon and retcon = confusion, complications and sheer frustration along with hours of finding and re-editing my previous posts to accomodate the changes.

To put it short, I'm concerned whether being stuck with one plot will affect continuity.
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"They whine about discrimination. Do you know who is being discriminated against? The Hal'vonnist people of Dannistaan, the ones who created this nation... I am talking about the Dannistrian Hal'vonnist people of the North as well as the East...Communism is racial! A racial minority seized control in Bai Lung and in all her satellite states such as Kelssek, Dovakhan and the Free Pacific States, and many other countries I could name."

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Has Bai Lung Dalu ever been mentioned in an RP?
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Apr 6 2008, 12:57 AM
Has Bai Lung Dalu ever been mentioned in an RP?

Yes, Bai Lung Dalu has been mentioned. Notable mentions include a Kelssek podcast (forgot which edition, it was probably February or March last year), posts made by Coocoostan and posts I've made in Interim Admin in trouble thread.

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Intracircumcordei-Bai Lung Dalu Border, 0245

Bishop hadn't gotten the results he'd been asked for and after a week, he'd been called back. After about two weeks in the country, it had looked like this was the end of it. But two days earlier, the word had broken that the Nationalists had moved into the mainland and the National Command Centre wanted information. So, being experienced in the area, they sent Bishop's team back. They'd gotten into the border area easily again and after seeing nothing, they'd seen some limited convoy action. Not much, maybe a full platoon, making a half-hearted effort to patrol the border. Maybe they were looking for bandits. But at 25 kilometres, driving at 90 kilometres an hour, they didn't have a chance to see the SF team dug in like they were. Bishop had decided that his ROE didn't cover the team well enough if they had've come closer, so he decided to go back and report. On the satphone, Bishop had been told that the NCC would make arrangements to begin reconnaisance.

Moscow, Russia

Sure enough, they had. Being a former Soviet Republic, the Federal Security Service knew some people in Moscow. These people would do almost anything for a decent paycheque, divert any asset, out any secret. It was the dilemma of having such a powerful job without the pay to match. The FSS agent met his man outside an abandoned apartment block. As they walked inside, the contact made a quip. "You know, they say Solzhenitsyn helped build this place. Of course, they say this about every other block in this damned city." They stopped in an empty room, with only some trash and human waste as evidence that squatters were a problem. "So, your people told me you need some satellite passes? That can be done. We have one keeping tabs on a few people...care to find out?"
The FSS agent sighed "Don't worry, I'm a good guesser. Now, I've told you about the territory we need surveyed. No one is to find out." He handed over the co-ordinates of military bases, power stations and airports in Bai Lung Dalu.
"Sure, this is simple, it's all so flat. I have another deal though, what about the trajectory of these satellites? They will pass over the Islands of Bai Lung. Do you not wish them surveyed as well? You could sell it to your Danistrian comrades for a pretty penny." The FSS agent thought.
"No. They don't need to know about any of this, this doesn't involve them."
"Very well....comrade. I will alter the flight paths to miss the Packilvanian lands in about two days. You'll get the first pictures after that. They'll just arrive, don't be worried about it. Now farewell." The contact walked out and headed back for his office. They hadn't gotten onto him, not only had his masters at the GRU not figured him out yet, but the Coocoostanis didn't realize that the satellites would pass over the majority of their country. When those pictures showed up, he'd sell them to the either faction of Bai Lungese, assuming they wanted them. Maybe he'd do them both, then he could even talk to an arms dealer in the Naval Infantry he knew and outfit them both with some of the 100 series AKs that were sitting around unused. That was the problem with dealing with those who had no loyalty. He wondered "If the FSS know I am not loyal to the country that raised me, then why do they expect my loyalty to them?"


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Forward Operating Base "Eagle's Nest",Sector 3, Bai Lung Dalu

Lieutenant Mikhail "Misha" Grucincev managed, after a great deal of work to set his Mi-17 down on top of the "helipad", which was really just a corrugated metal sheet on top of what looked like a pile of dirt. He got out, leaving his nose gunner and walked into the command post, which looked like something a group of pre-teens might have built, with stacks of old barrels and wood boxes, plus a camo net, which was really to just shield out the sun. "I see you've made yourself comfortable." he said, half mockingly to the Infantry Major in the post, who rose to his feet and traded salutes to the Captain running the place and stepped out. "'bout damn time you got here." he said to his former fellow student at Initial Training Camp. Grucincev had taken a small hit in rank to move into the Air Force, as a pilot. Pilot would have been his preference, but there were barely any aircraft when he joined. Now, you really just had to say the word to move over. On the other hand, his friend, Zelepukin, had made Major in six years, being promoted before coming to be the Operations officer in his regiment. They got into the helo and flew to the base next to the small town that served as the governmental seat for this area. Misha was new to the area and only flown into the sector for the first time today. "So what's the deal with this base?" he asked, as they approached from the west.

"Well, that bigger camp is ours, 600 troops, the blacktop we just laid is our mutual helipad, the smaller base with that big building is the Bai Lungese Base, which they have not yet asked us to and this of course, leaves the town, which at 2,500, is the largest in a 400km radius."

"You're kidding me. That all sounds pretty screwy." Misha replied.

"No, the BL National Guard, or whatever they picked now, patrol the town, which as you've no doubt noticed, is surrounded by a fence, with the barbed wire angled out. They don't want us there and we don't want to go there, with everyone understanding that if there WAS an insurgency of any strength, we would be in there within 10 minutes, which is why they gave us the closer base, less than a klick away."

It was all true. Bai Lung Dalu was almost the opposite of the other "foreign" deployment the CM had seen into Darrowmere, where the population was largely concentrated in medium sized cities, as village life was nearly impossible. Here in BLD, there had to be a dozen villages in between where you were and where you were going. Unlike in Darrowmere, where shoddily paved roads were common, the roads here were almost all dirt, which turned to mud during the monsoons. How it made sense that northern Coocoostan was largely Desert, except in the Mountains, Intracircumcordei was desert and BLD was almost all Jungle made absolutely no sense, but that's how it was.


Here are 2 very recent mentionings of the mainland/Dalu (the two terms are interchangable. In fact, Dalu is Mandarin Chinese for mainland) both posted by me.

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Chiba Seto: "I agree. Why I bring this up? We don't want our relations to be like that. Strained and with total animosity. I would like to attain a sturdy relation between our two countries and the only way we can achieve this is through dialogue and that in turn, we need ambassadors in both of our country. I can send ambassadors to your country and they can help continue on with this relations well after I've left Kelssek and in turn, you can send some of your ambassadors to the mainland as it is much closer to home. Of course, an embassy in Pyongjing is welcoming but I've had my mind set on building an embassy in the mainland. If that is fine with you?"


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Chiba Seto: "Hello, Pierre. I've got some bad news. Remember all that stuff about establishing relationships between our countries? "

Pierre Gautain: "Of course, Mr Chiba..."

Chiba Seto: "About how me giving you the green light to allow troops to maintain peace in the mainlands? Well, that's going to change with the new head cheese. I've been voted out of power because most of them are convinced that I did play a role in Laneux. It was an act of intuition rather than basing it on evidence. That's two injuries I've suffered in a week. First the thugs at Burnaby airport, now this. Unbelievable..."

Pierre Gautain: "I'm sorry to hear that, Mr Chiba..."

Chiba Seto: "That's ok, I'm just another rusty old man who gets beaten around by whippersnappers. Who knows what this leader will do. He might reverse all the policies and threaten military action if you do not comply. Beware of one of my ex-colleagues, Stephen T. Ding. He wants to reverse the policies I've made. Demand BL$200 million, demand immediate withdrawal of Kelssekian troops. Don't have faith in him."


Perhaps I should focus my attention on the mainland territories in future RP posts to justifiy my reclamation of the territiories. Plus, Dannistaan didn't focus on Tyrsis recently but retained his turf. :P
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"They whine about discrimination. Do you know who is being discriminated against? The Hal'vonnist people of Dannistaan, the ones who created this nation... I am talking about the Dannistrian Hal'vonnist people of the North as well as the East...Communism is racial! A racial minority seized control in Bai Lung and in all her satellite states such as Kelssek, Dovakhan and the Free Pacific States, and many other countries I could name."

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yay! now can I have 30, 41, 52 !
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Kandarin
Apr 5 2008, 06:40 PM
Before anyone else says "I need a massive number of plots to justify my massive population" I'd like to point out two things:

1) Your RP population does not need to correspond to your NS population. Indeed, many people don't. Loop has over 10 billion people in NS but RPs a population roughly the size of Japan (after I talked him out of an estimate of "a few million at most"...or at least I think I talked him out of it). On the flip side, Reziel RPed a nation of billions that has never even existed in NS.

This is for the best. Not everyone wants to RP a super-gigantic nation, which NS nations usually become. This gives them other options. Besides, if you pegged your RP population to your NS population it'd gain billions of people in a few years. I know we take a lot of liberties with reality here, but that's patently ludicrous.

2) There is no scale on our map. Yes, it's mostly shaped the same, and there is a Korea, and an East Malaysia (albeit in the wrong place and not populated by Malaysians) but our map is not Asia and there is nothing that says it's the same size. It is open to very large and very small interpretations. You're free to decide, within some reason, how much land area your plots contain.

Scale would be more of an issue if we fought as many player-nation versus player-nation wars as other NSRP groups, but we don't, so it isn't.

In short, if you explain it well enough you can get away with a lot more than you think.

BL, if I were you I wouldn't be worried about the need to acquire enough map plots to realistically house your population. While needing that much land is realistic, gaining a billion people in a few years (even with BL's rabbit-like birth rate) isn't, and then there's the question of exactly how an impoverished and war-torn island nation transported a billion people to an inland colony surrounded by territories that aren't all that friendly.

I have actually killed off population a couple times.
the Neko Flu, the exodus to Alpha prime ect.
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*addendum, my population is fixed at approk 125 million (like Japan)

also there is nothing to say we cannot claim Australia and into China/russia proper if we needed to expand.
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Apr 6 2008, 12:50 AM
(and the 3 little islands around BL)

I don't think they need to be on the large-scale regional map. Include them in your own country map if you wish.

v2 map changes made, refresh it if you still see the same thing.
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Can I have 120 and 124

As greyed out occupied areas, yes. I think you're at the limit already.
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Can I have 120 and 124

As greyed out occupied areas, yes. I think you're at the limit already.

That's very agreeable with. As long as I can keep my states, I'm happy. Do you think I can get my color changed to that lime-like green? Like Packland & Wachovia. I think that color is absolutely emazing.
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