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A call for unity!
Topic Started: Sep 3 2008, 01:51:36 AM (967 Views)
Warr
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Since the election of Lady Phedre to the position of delegate in our region 18 days ago, we have done naught but squabble over barren land. The radical confederates and their imperial counterparts have both attempted to staff off the other from the region, making 'imperial' or 'confederate' a word of hate in our region, which was once so free.

It is a testament to our region's willingness to -try- to start again and continue its way of life that we brought over roleplays, and so many former members of the 'confederate East Pacific' took to the new forum and began being active, staffing the waters for safety from snakes, for sure, but went none-the-less.

We bring hate, distrust, and anger to the table to our own brothers, thinking that our brothers wish to do us harm, and taking statements from one another of mere distrust of simple view point as outright damnation.

We take the other to be extremists, or children who just want more than they deserve. We should quit this action, and we should unite as one region, even if it makes us have to adjust to change, and we have to get over a few things we'd not like. Even if we have to give up powers we'd like to see in our hands or 'those who are friendlies.'

Phedre said that she wished to make this region active, and better. She has proved this in her dedication so far, and her willingness to hear viewpoints, though not giving into every statement given. If she wished to make us a vassal of some other region or remake us in her image, the members of the confederate east pacific would be no more. She would be banning them with every chance, and slowly widdle down Gnidrah's influence by banjecting any nation which supports him. She has not, and she has in fact given her time to the option of peace, the option of compromise.

It is necessary that we compromise, and that we cage our hounds at this moment. We should not mar one another's homes with the mark of coal, or pigs blood. We should unite and fight for our region, fight to make it united.

Fight with words, with compromise, with giving up what we may think we deserve in small doses, expecting our compatriots to do the same. I ask for you to quit taking the region in terms of 'Imperial East Pacific' or 'Confederate East Pacific.'

We are the East Pacific, and we should let -ourselves- speak for ourselves. Protect our region, and let bygones be bygones. Allowing people our ear just because they have our respect doesn't mean we should let them influence us. We would be fools to think that the leaders and members of the other feeders and regions wouldn't see something to gain in an ununited east pacific, and we are fools to think that the Azure Alliance, the North Pacific, or any group, if they defeat the combined forces of Gatesville, The East Pacific, and The New Inquisition, would give us the time of day after they did as they would obviously do, and move to invade.

We should focus on the good for our region, and not the good for our personal being, or our 'perceived honor.'

I ask you to simply consider my statements, and that you hold yourself to be neutral in these proceedings, letting your voice be heard only if you can remove the spite which might grow in it. I speak from personal experience, realizing now that I did the same thing.

Thank you for your time,
Warr of the East Pacific.


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Rahl has made an offer, I leave it up to the members here to decide to accept it.
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Sep 3 2008, 01:01 AM
Rahl has made an offer, I leave it up to the members here to decide to accept it.

I'm aware, but this was simply a support of that and for us to quit acting like children to each other.
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I wish natives of TEP well in whatever you decide to do here. Should you decide to fight the empire, defeat is by no means inevitable, but you would face a lot of hard work and a long struggle which you are ill-equipped to undertake given your activity level. It could be done, but it would be hard.

Should you decide to reach a compromise with the Empire, that possibly involves an equal sruggle to adjust to a new system, a new political alignment and a new culture in the region.

A personal hope - and it is one that is mine alone, not a government stance from the Merit or TNP or anywhere else - is that eventually TEP enjoys once again self-determination in their choice of delegate, and complete independence in domestic and foreign policy.

I wish you well.
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Good luck in your decision.
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Warr, i consider you as a friend but i canīt agree with your words...
First, Phedre wasnīt elected, she took the delegacy by force.
Second, i heard she didnīt banned more people than she already did only because she spent all the influence she had, and since her influence is now minnow, this looks like to be the true.
Third, you say we should unite with the current invasor against other invasors because they would treat us worse... In those 18 days, we only got insults and demands of submission from Rahl, so i honestly donīt believe that a new invasor could do worse(at least they didnīt insulted us yet)...
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I agree with Mr. Drakkengard on this one.
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Reziel
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Honestly, i do not think that TNP would be interested in invading us, should they repeal GV. Therefore, I agree that some kind of unity should be reached, but the "foreign threats issue" seems rather irrelevant to me.

That said... do not be too sure about your statements, drak. There's always something a bit deeper, when you think you've reached the bottom.
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I also wish you luck in your decision. ^____^
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Regardless of how you guys decide to react (I was referring to you on a person to person basis, because even if you -do- take the decision to move to a different region instead of staying here, you'll be influencing others if you say only 'I'm throwing in my hat, regardless.'


But if everything does end up messing up, and either the confederacy doesn't gain supremecy again, or the region isn't a stable or fun place to be, I'll just focus on my NS2 nation and the alliances I have there.
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we are fools to think that the Azure Alliance, the North Pacific, or any group, if they defeat the combined forces of Gatesville, The East Pacific, and The New Inquisition, would give us the time of day after they did as they would obviously do, and move to invade


This may or may not be worth anything here, but I can give you my absolute word of honour that there are and have been no plans in TNP to invade or occupy TEP. Such a thing would be alien to our history, our traditions, and our foreign policy, and it has never even been mooted. TNP has no interest as a region in TEP. My own personal involvement here came out of my deep-seated belief in regional self-determination.
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Same here. :lol:
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I agree with Flem about the self-determination part.

Plus I still consider TEP as my home.

I did not fight for nearly 4 years to return to my first home region to give it all up in a matter of days.

In my family, we are raised to fight for what we believe in and to protect it. Quitting is the equivalent of failure, and that is not in my personal vocabulary.

Those who have been my true good friends have not given up on me the past four years I've had my social conflicts, and be it in NS or IRL, I will not give up on my friends. Not now, not ever.

I would rather kill myself than throw in the towel for something I believe worth fighting for. :ph43r:
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we are fools to think that the Azure Alliance, the North Pacific, or any group, if they defeat the combined forces of Gatesville, The East Pacific, and The New Inquisition, would give us the time of day after they did as they would obviously do, and move to invade


This may or may not be worth anything here, but I can give you my absolute word of honour that there are and have been no plans in TNP to invade or occupy TEP. Such a thing would be alien to our history, our traditions, and our foreign policy, and it has never even been mooted. TNP has no interest as a region in TEP. My own personal involvement here came out of my deep-seated belief in regional self-determination.

you dont love us anymore?
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You thought I loved you? I never said that. When did I ever suggest that our relationship was anything other than physical? I was only after your body.
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Sep 3 2008, 12:51 AM
Since the election of Lady Phedre to the position of delegate in our region 18 days ago

Election? What election. I have seen no such thing, what I have seen was an invasion.
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