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| On the art of War, feeder style; The way ahead against the Empire | |
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| Topic Started: Sep 29 2008, 02:35:59 AM (774 Views) | |
| flemingovia | Sep 29 2008, 02:35:59 AM Post #1 |
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Kilroy was here
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[/center] In any feeder war, there are two battles that take place simultaneously. There is the physical war that takes the form of offence and defence: Those holding the delegacy seek to keep it using such tactics as endotarting, endocaps, scanning for threats, bannings, calling in allies etc. Those seeking to take, or retake, the delegacy use such tactics as causing the delegate to waste influence, slowly building endos and influence in the hope of flying in under the radar, unendorsement campaigns, gaining outside help, direct military assault etc. This is the obvious stuff, and it can be organised quite easily. However, there is also another war that goes on simultaneously, and which directly influences the physical war. I call it the “battle for legitimacy”. In short, this is the battle to convince people in TEP and in the wider NS world that the community here is the legitimate TEP community, and worthy of their support. There are those who will say that “might makes right”, and that the possession of the delegacy bestows legitimacy. However, the reality is more subtle. The players who form the Empire convinced many to help their attack by claiming that Gnidrah, through inactivity, had lost the right to be delegate. Of course, now they hold the seat themselves, their tune will change, however inactive Phedre proves. The reality is that, as far as many are concerned, activity = legitimacy. It was this lack of activity that won the Empire the region. In part, it is activity that will win it back. If we do nothing, or are seen to do nothing, then as time passes the Empire will gain legitimacy simply on the principle that possession is nine tenths of the law. I saw this happen in the Pacific in 2004/5 as the NPO/PRP gained legitimacy over time, and the arguments of those who denied its legitimacy sounded more and more hollow. There is much that we can do to help. Here is what, as your warchief, I propose to do. In our struggle, we will divide ourselves into four IMPI, or war bands, after the example of Shaka, the Zulu warrior. Warriors may be in more than one impi.
For this to work, it will need commitment from the folks still here, and we will need new blood. But you will be surprised what a small number of people can achieve in Nationstates. If you would like to be involved in this struggle, even if you can only spare a few minutes a day, then send me a PM, telling me which impi you are interested in. |
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Papercuts and skittles: "[Feeders are] ... Much better than stupid user created regions. Userites are just people who weren't strong enough to make it in the feeders. They are weaklings." | |
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Oct 6 2008, 08:31:56 PM Post #2 |
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The Fluffy Horde
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I have sent you a PM as you have asked :ph43r: |
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Oct 21 2008, 11:12:14 AM Post #3 |
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BUMP ! <_< :ph43r: |
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| Kelssek | Oct 23 2008, 05:59:10 AM Post #4 |
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Hero of the Soviet Onion
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Here is a message I've composed that could be used on the RMB: --- Two months ago, Lady Phedre and a group of allies invaded and displaced the delegate of the East Pacific. This was a delegacy and a regional government made up of the "natives" of the East Pacific, who had put years of effort into building a strong and proud community, even going to the extent of registering the domain name, www.theeastpacific.com. More importantly, it was an open and democratic government which allowed everyone a say and a chance to take on roles in the region. Lady Phedre and her group of invaders are not members of the East Pacific and have no right to consider themselves so. They are here for one reason: the prestige in their circles of controlling one of the game's largest regions. Despite what they might say otherwise, everything else is secondary to that and is an excuse to justify their continued, undeserved control of the delegacy. If you want a representative and inclusive regional government and not a shambolic prop for a group of region-crashers to stoke their egos, remove your endorsement for Lady Phedre. And come to www.theeastpacific.com, get involved, and see which community you like. --- I would like to add a person to endorse, but perhaps we need to settle that first, and quickly, before Phedre gains too much influence (Dannistaan seemed the best candidate, but for some reason he resigned from the UN). We aren't gaining anything through delay, and I hope something is going on behind the scenes here. |
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| Kelssek | Oct 23 2008, 03:23:18 PM Post #5 |
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Hero of the Soviet Onion
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Another thing I've just thought of, and this is extremely important. Gnidrah's account cannot, under any circumstances, be allowed to die. We need the influence, and the legitimacy of him being the displaced delegate. Someone MUST contact him and get the password, and then resign their own nation from the WA so it isn't a case of WA multi-ing. It's our own fault for leaving any actions far too long. We DON'T HAVE TIME if we ever hope to regain our region, and frankly I'm starting to doubt it will ever happen. Please prove me wrong. |
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| Infinite Loop | Oct 23 2008, 09:26:42 PM Post #6 |
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Take Off, Eh?
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we can ask him but I doubt he will give it over, Kel, are you still in region? you had a good base of influence I think, |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Endorsements recieved ( 69 ) : Cupertino, 1 Infinite Loop, 2 Infinite Loop, Infinite Loop, Bob Mckenzie, Shinagami, Shortbus, Magic Emperor Ghaelon, Ghaelon, SLAK, Prarie squid, Alys Whitill, The Cabin Grrrrl, The Cabin Girl, hax0rstan, Black Wolf Furries, Mr OWL, Vladimir Harkonnen, Uncle Duke, McTropolis, Avignon, Caesar Calligula, Max Zorin, Deus Ex Fiat, Walter Koenig, The True Reich, Atlanta Constitution, Fark Propaganda Corps, The Knights of Colombus, Fertile Sputniks, Jude Streicher,Otto Skorzeny, Nicholas der Kirchwass, Megalocyathus, Lil Megalocyathus, Uncle Toms Nation, Simon Legree, Yatta_, Lowtax, Patriotute, Doctor Zaius, General Ursus, Corneluis the ape, Nova the wild human, Bright eyes taylor, Dr Zira, Alex Chiu, Honkey the Goose, StandartenFuerher, Neko Mimi, The NS Invaders, Free n Accepted Masons.Miss Tessmacher, Hurricane Jezebel ,Rbt E Lee ,Dead Yankee ,U S Grant ,General Mead, Baron Karza, Rowdy Roddy Piper, Col Sanders, Aunt Jemimas witnesses, of the people Q, Le French Stereotypes, Qfdsdiozbnf, Alan Scott, Baltar the Traitor, Mok Mok the Jawa, space kraken, | |
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| Kelssek | Oct 24 2008, 12:40:07 AM Post #7 |
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Hero of the Soviet Onion
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I'm at Vassal, which is the same as Phedre. It's not going to hold up for very long, because number of endorsements gains you influence. |
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| Haor Chall | Oct 24 2008, 04:24:32 AM Post #8 |
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AquinasNet
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You are right. I've said it before. Unfortunately it doesn't look likely to happen. |
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Senator for International Affairs, The Pacific "When in deadly danger, When beset by doubt, Run in little circles, Wave your arms and shout." | |
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| flemingovia | Oct 24 2008, 09:12:04 AM Post #9 |
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Kilroy was here
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i have asked Loop to remask those who have volunteered to help in the struggle. Sadly, he seems to be afk at the moment. |
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Papercuts and skittles: "[Feeders are] ... Much better than stupid user created regions. Userites are just people who weren't strong enough to make it in the feeders. They are weaklings." | |
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| Infinite Loop | Oct 24 2008, 10:55:11 AM Post #10 |
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Take Off, Eh?
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I remasked them, are they unable to see it? I will try again |
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| Space Nurse | Oct 24 2008, 11:04:44 AM Post #11 |
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Everyone who was remasked should be able to see thi Impi, I checked with this account. |
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| Dannistaan | Oct 24 2008, 01:48:44 PM Post #12 |
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Bat Shoot Loco
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I quit from the WA simply because I have no real interest to take on the delegacy. To clarify. I was not coerced by anyone, directly or indirectly. This was my own decision. The main reason for this is due to the fact that I've finally gotten new employment. On one hand, this allows me to now participate more on these forums. On the other hand, it means I will no longer be a suitable candidate to take part on the OOC political side of NS. The reason the Confederacy got into trouble in the first place, IMHO, is because Gnidrah was unable to devote enough time to running the region. Now I know RL hits and accept that. RL has affected my participation badly here as well. However, taking this into account, I believe I am not the right person to take on any position of power. Otherwise, the only thing that will happen is I become "King for a day" only to be ousted later. So with that in mind, I'm not going to get involved in the matter. I do apologise if I have let anyone down here, but I feel I cannot let everyone down even more if I do decide to keep involved in the NS political side. TL;DR, My job will preclude me from getting too involved in the politics of NS, so I'm staying out of it. Of course, if you want to convince me otherwise, go ahead and PM me with a rebuttal if you think I'm being defeatist. |
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The Office of Her Majesty's Dannistrian Ambassador to Rillanon, Christie Island The Royal Confederacy of Dannistaan In Omnis Unum | |
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