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Anarchy; Split from map requests
Topic Started: Jan 29 2009, 03:13:36 PM (343 Views)
Warr
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Mallumo
Jan 29 2009, 01:53 PM
I hope no one minds if I ask a few questions. I was wondering if I should adopt a permanent flag, or perhaps a seperate foreign use state flag, so that there would be no problem with the map. The other question is, are all territories truly fair game as the rules depict? Anyone have any suggestions where it would be best for RP for me to go?

Every nation should have a flag of some sort, and if you think that it's unlikely that the thing in your avatar would be used as a 'foreign use flag', then go ahead and come up with one. If you need help, I'd be happy to help you.

As far as 'are all territories truly fair game as the rules depict?' Yes, they are, if they've not been claimed by someone on the map already (Which the map would show you easily if it was fully dealt with, but at the moment Kandarin's not gotten a chance to update it yet.)

These plots have been claimed by these players/nations.

Plot 27) has been all but claimed by Ridann.
Plot 3) has been claimed by Angelic Jutland.
Plot 49) has been claimed by Athenus.
Plot 29 and possibly 28) has been claimed by Monte Belle.
Plot 18) has been claimed by Haor Choal/Aquinas Net
Plot 24) has been claimed by Hoi Oligoi.
Plot 56) has been claimed by Arayami.

Pretty much anything else is fair game, however.

Suggestions on 'where would be the best for RP for you to go', depends 1, on how you plan your nation to be RP wise, and 2, on what you want it terrain wise/who you'd want to be around, really.
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Alright, thank you. My current flag, in my avatar, is the inverted color variation of a proposed anarchist flag. It reads "Liberty" in Sumerian cuniform, and I inverted the colors to emphasize black - the universal color of anarchy. I turned it on its side because that was the way some Pacific region flags IRL were flown at one point. I do not plan to keep it, however, in my defense the foreign use flags of several Scandinavian countries are not rectangular, but instead, swallowtailed and the flag of Nepal and the flag of Switzerland are not rectangles either (Well, Switzerland's is a square. So is Vatican City's by the way.) This being said, I am certainly not trying to fight! Please don't take it that way! I appreciate your help in fact. I'm working on a variation of the old Tamerlane flag. Would you be willing to rate it? Should it be the standard rectangle on its side the way most nations fly them? Thanks so much!
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That probably shouldn't be discussed here. However, having read what I have (with the fact Mallumo is apparently an anarchy), it'd be best if it was an island nation. A continental nation that was an anarchy would have a -very- huge problem staying sovereign/existent.

In regards to the 'inversion of the colors', you know that by inverting it you're making the words 'liberty' white, the color which is more closely tied to law than anarchy, and by using 'black and white', you're making the color grey, one used by facist/federalist nations.

Though the fact is, no nation could exist for long as an anarchy as an 'real nation' persay, and would revert to city states where democracy, autocratic facism, or liberterine neutrality existed. So having a flag is not necessarily 'necessary' per say.
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Warr
Jan 29 2009, 11:40 PM
A continental nation that was an anarchy would have a -very- huge problem staying sovereign/existent.

That depends entirely on who its neighbors are.
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Kandarin should just implode from the sheer ridiculousness of it all.
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I mean, no nation could ever sustain that many contradicting belief systems and still exist.
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Jan 30 2009, 12:21 AM
Warr
Jan 29 2009, 11:40 PM
A continental nation that was an anarchy would have a -very- huge problem staying sovereign/existent.

That depends entirely on who its neighbors are.

Not really. Any imperial nation nearby who doesn't have terrestrial boundaries could likely still have tendencies to invade it, though that's true of island nations to, but the 'it's for our defense that we invade this nearby country' would be null for an island nation, likely.
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Jan 30 2009, 06:36 AM
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Jan 30 2009, 12:21 AM
Warr
Jan 29 2009, 11:40 PM
A continental nation that was an anarchy would have a -very- huge problem staying sovereign/existent.

That depends entirely on who its neighbors are.

Not really. Any imperial nation nearby who doesn't have terrestrial boundaries could likely still have tendencies to invade it, though that's true of island nations to, but the 'it's for our defense that we invade this nearby country' would be null for an island nation, likely.

*checks*

Nope, Somalia is still there.

Splitting this, since it's diverged from the original discussion.
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Kandarin should just implode from the sheer ridiculousness of it all.
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I mean, no nation could ever sustain that many contradicting belief systems and still exist.
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Somalia is not an anarchy in the sense 'some' might imply, it's a fuedal state. Likewise, without regular UN aid shipments and minimal security forces, Somalia -probably wouldn't- be there.

I don't mean nations in the real world, where there's the UN and several nations, perhaps some with nukes, to complain when someone comes in and hits/forces change in a place.
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Don't be making wild assumptions on what Mallumo does or does not mean by anarchy.

Besides, the long-term goals or outcomes of the anarchist movement are distant from their stated goals. All political systems do this.
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Kandarin should just implode from the sheer ridiculousness of it all.
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I mean, no nation could ever sustain that many contradicting belief systems and still exist.
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I know this very well, and I'm -already- discussing this with Mallumo, over IM.
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Jan 30 2009, 06:21 AM
Warr
Jan 29 2009, 11:40 PM
A continental nation that was an anarchy would have a -very- huge problem staying sovereign/existent.

That depends entirely on who its neighbors are.

*packilvania whistles quietly in the corner.
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I did not mean to cause any problems. All I meant was that the regime in Mallumo uses anarchy as an ideal. We have a military force that is organized. I did, however, take your advice and request a space far from the others. Thank you!
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Jan 30 2009, 03:09 PM
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Jan 30 2009, 06:21 AM
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Jan 29 2009, 11:40 PM
A continental nation that was an anarchy would have a -very- huge problem staying sovereign/existent.

That depends entirely on who its neighbors are.

*packilvania whistles quietly in the corner.

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@ At Mallumo. So basically your nation is controlled by one or more warlords who aside from ensuring that their subjects pay "taxes" allow the people to go on with their lives however they want?
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That's actually a very good description of it.

I hope it doesn't upset you somehow.
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I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that this is not one of those regions that forces RPers to design their nations with defense from a region full of bloodthirsty warlord nations in mind. I'm sure that the hypothetical "Imperial nation" would try to invade a nation like Kelssek, with its democratic government and limited defense system, or Loop, with its laundry list of domestic woes. That hasn't happened yet, nor does it need to for the setting to be plausible.

We do not require people to design nations that would withstand worst-case scenarios. When war occurs ICly, it should only be because all parties have agreed to do the thread OOCly. IC one-sided wars or OOC bullying of other RPers to do a war won't be tolerated.
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Kandarin should just implode from the sheer ridiculousness of it all.
ClipSnap says:
I mean, no nation could ever sustain that many contradicting belief systems and still exist.
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Eep, did I do something to elicit that response?
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Feb 2 2009, 09:33 PM
I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that this is not one of those regions that forces RPers to design their nations with defense from a region full of bloodthirsty warlord nations in mind. I'm sure that the hypothetical "Imperial nation" would try to invade a nation like Kelssek, with its democratic government and limited defense system, or Loop, with its laundry list of domestic woes. That hasn't happened yet, nor does it need to for the setting to be plausible.

We do not require people to design nations that would withstand worst-case scenarios. When war occurs ICly, it should only be because all parties have agreed to do the thread OOCly. IC one-sided wars or OOC bullying of other RPers to do a war won't be tolerated.

Frankly i'd like to know who this was directed at.
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No one, just a statement in general.
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Indeed.
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I think he was just making a reminder.
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