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Topic Started: Sep 24 2009, 10:06:02 PM (5,026 Views)
Alejandro the Penguin
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Der Fuhrer Dyszel
Jun 8 2010, 11:24 PM
I propose Pack should be Emperor too!

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All hail the Emperor Pack, assimiliate and be assmiliated!

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We are all penguins now.

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Kandarin
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packilvania
Jun 8 2010, 01:52 PM
I'd like to create a new government position of "Emperor". I'd be more than happy to fill this role for the time being.

Assimilation is complete, Your Excellency.

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Awaiting further orders.
"Torpored Caitiff Antediluvian"

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Kandarin should just implode from the sheer ridiculousness of it all.
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I mean, no nation could ever sustain that many contradicting belief systems and still exist.
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Chancellor Shaw
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Hahaha, epic awesome Kandarin. I especially like "Infinite Assimilation" and "A Slanted Pack Stripe". :D
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I like how dovakhan got to stay sovereign.
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Allegheny
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There was a hole here. It's gone now.
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Todd McCloud
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Too funny!

I am oddly agreeing. Least it's still East. :)
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Der Fuhrer Dyszel
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Pack we must assilimate him at whatever the cost!

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Alejandro the Penguin
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WE MUST ASSASSINATE PACK

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Todd McCloud
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Pfft, everyone knows Pack has achieved dream-mode. And you cannot kill a dream!!! AHAHAHAHA!!
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Alejandro the Penguin
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Todd McCloud
Jun 9 2010, 05:03 PM
Pfft, everyone knows Pack has achieved dream-mode. And you cannot kill a dream!!! AHAHAHAHA!!

I killed a dream last night- it was my girlfriend's. All I used was my genitalia and some candles.

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Dannistaan
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We are not amused...The Dann..."Paackilvaanian" delegate wishes to lodge a protest against being assimulated! :P
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Island Radio has been assimilated and Packmania has taken over as the latest playlist shows:

Welcome Pack - Mase
Pack In Business - Madonna
Pack In History - Inmates
Pack In The USSR - Beatles
Pack On The Chain Gang - Pretenders
Pack To The Island - Baha Men
Pack To The Start - Lily Allen
Pack Where You Belong - Foreigner
Boss Is Pack - Sir Mix-A-Lot
Bring Me Pack - Milkwood
Come Pack - Pearl Jam
Don't Get Your Pack Up - Sarah Harmer
Don't Want You Pack - Backstreet Boys
Hold Me Pack - AC/DC
Jack Pack - Sir Mix-A-Lot
King Pack - T.I.
Life Is A Lemon & I Want My Money Pack - Meat Loaf
Monkey On My Pack - Aerosmith
No Turning Pack - Immortals
Pay You Pack With Interest - Hollies
Rub My Pack - LL Cool J
Running Pack - Thin Lizzy
Scratch My Pack - Echoes
Take Me Pack - Erasure
There's No Lookin' Pack - Poverty Plainsmen
Waltzing Pack - Cranberries
We Are Pack - LFO

However plans are in place to send him "Packing" :ph43r:
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LOLZ!!!
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To me "Really Nice Hive" was the funniest...nevertheless...LOL
I don't want to conquer the world, I want the people to put me as their leader for themselves (or I will have to conquer it, anyways it will be mine soon).

"What is a rebel? A man who says no" -Albert Camus-

"The greatest joy a man can know is to conquer his enemies and drive them before him. To ride their horses and take away their possessions. To see the faces of those who were dear to them bedewed with tears, and to clasp their wives and daughters in his arms." -Genghis Khan-
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Todd McCloud
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Kurogasa
Jun 10 2010, 02:41 AM
To me "Really Nice Hive" was the funniest...nevertheless...LOL

Actually, I agree - that was the funniest one. Although Packilvanyu was funny to me too, lol.
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Chancellor Shaw
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I didn't notice that one, (Really Nice Hive) I will have to agree. :D
Thank you for your time
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The Angel of Death
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Haha, this made me laugh seeing this today.
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Todd McCloud
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The Magister Caffeinetopia has CTE :(
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Todd McCloud
Jun 17 2010, 10:56 PM
The Magister Caffeinetopia has CTE :(

Yes, confirmed that Todd, I've just removed him from my dossier?
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A reminder to Alejandro:

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As forum staff, I must remind people that trolling, swearing with no point, and posting of irrelevant items in a non-spum friendly place is prohibited.


This is not the words of Pack acting alone. The entire admin group, and the entire region, holds a dim view of spumming. Pack has already warned you. From here on out, this discussion will take place in the Conclave.

If anyone wishes to see the specific post that brought out this response, it has been moved to an abuse archive and is available on any request.
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Kandarin should just implode from the sheer ridiculousness of it all.
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Nalt
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(I don't mean to derail the above topic but I'd like to make a comment as a citizen myself.)

I think one of two things should happen in order to make TEP more secure. This is what my little time spent in Lazarus was spent doing, so it's another area I feel able to help with... I monitored a few endoswappers in Laz and TGed their endorsers if they got dangerously close to Griff's level (Griff can't eject from Laz).

I've been reading a lot of the threads on this board trying to make myself less of a newbie here, and one of the things I found interesting was Todd's noting of 'disturbances in the force' within nationstates. I recognize the importance of an endorsement cap and am not suggesting we move away from it, but as in that case (not recent but still relevant because it could occur here at any time). There are many nations I've seen in each feeder in excess to the cap who are well known and obviously not seeking to overthrow the delegate, and do not need discipline. Meanwhile (as in the case linked above) there are nations obviously attempting to overthrow the delegate, but who are not over the endorsement cap. We need a process to deal with these nations before they reach the endorsement cap to further impress upon people that endoswapping won't work in TEP, and to prevent an issue like Rol faced, having to eject a nation he feared would take the delegacy even though he had no legal right to (from what I could tell from that thread, but I don't know TWP laws so perhaps I'm wrong). My two ideas are:

1) [Favorite] A thread for citizens to report endoswappers (or any one using any other method such as a TG campaign) to the Conclave, who would then have a trial against said nation based on the Treason Act's definition of High Treason ("attempts to overthrow the legitimate Delegate"). I like this idea because it gives the conclave something to do on a more regular basis which might help in the current attempts to keep the Conclave active. (I think if the conclave doesn't have trials semi-often we risk the Arbiters losing interest.) Plus, as far as I can tell doing this requires no change in the laws of the region, as the Conclave should already have the power to try these trials... But what we don't have is a way for citizens (or non-citizens I suppose) to report the swappers to the conclave or 'file charges' against them. A thread serving this purpose in the conclave would be sufficient, and could be implemented as part of the vast pending changes being made to the Conclave.

2) A law passed by the Magisterium reading something like:
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The Magisterium of The East Pacific hereby declares:
1 - Any nation within The East Pacific found to be endorsing other nations excessively may be ejected and banned by the delegate in order to maintain regional stability.
2 - 'Endorsing other nations excessively' shall be defined as endorsing twenty or more nations within a short period of time.
3 - The delegate must inform the region via a post in the Executive forum of the ejection as well as provide evidence of the former resident's excessive endorsing.
4 - The delegate may choose not to eject a nation due to excessive endorsing for any reason.

And accompanying that act put a similar thread in the Executive forum where endoswappers can be reported to the delegate.

I would like to see us either start acting on option 1 (because as I said, from my limited knowledge it seems like it is legally doable right now) or implement option 2 if it is viewed as more appropriate by others. Or go with Option 3 which would be another idea by someone else to achieve the same end.

Other possible steps would be to make Viziers responsible for monitoring the region for endoswappers. Possibly a good idea just to ensure that someone is doing it, but I am already doing this now, so it probably isn't needed. (Although they are in charge of 'regional security' so it does make sense for them to do this anyway.)

And of course, I wouldn't want to ban every new nation that is endoswapping. I do believe there are nations that just want to have high endos to be impressive and may not want to take delegacy, as well as nations (I admit to doing this myself when I submitted Commend Todd McCloud) from tiny regions who move to feeders and endoswap in order to get the two endos needed to submit a proposal, quickly. Anyway, no matter what method is used, I think contacting the endoswapper and trying to talk them out of endoswapping before a banning is important. We don't need to be overly harsh, but we should have a better system in place to protect us from endoswappers.

*Walks away feeling like he rambled*

EDIT: I just re-read the Conclave's draft and realize there will be a way to charge someone of crime, so most of this post is irrelevant once that is approved.
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I would also like to propose (sorry for double post) that the Regulations on advertising on the RMB be amended to include:

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6 - Only regions may advertise on the RMB.

This is because today we had two RMB advertisements for NS News websites on our RMB. I've asked the mods if it is legal for something other than a region to advertise, but even if it is illegal, it'd be nice to put it in our rules to help inform people what is and is not welcome. If it is legal for them to do this, I do not think we should allow it. It's even more pointless than regional ads since it isn't even promoting much.
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I think I'm going to have to disagree with you there, Topid. I like the idea of moving towards more IC spum like the news blurbs.

For one thing, it is infinitely more pleasing than "Tired of being in a perfectly good, awesome region? Move to (insert random region name here), because I say so and we might have a government one day for you to join."

For another, what is wrong with spreading the word about a news site? I for one didn't even know they existed until I saw the RMB posts. It gives people something to talk about, it replaces BADspum, and it relates directly to the game. If someone were advertising a completely separate website (if you like NS then why not try [other random website]?) then I would totally understand and agree with you that it is not allowed. As long as they are well written, IC, and more or less follow the guidelines of our advertising regulations, I am for them.

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Concerning gaining endorsements and endoswapping, I do understand your concern to a point, but not to the same extent. Some people would say, and in fact have said, that endorsements are pointless unless you are planning on running for Delegate. I disagree. As quoted from "All About Influence" in the FAQ: "In relation to ejecting and banning, the exact amount of Influence consumed depends on the target's Influence."

This tells me that the more loyal nations there are in a region with high amounts of endorsements (but, of course, still under the endocap) the more secure a region is. I know it is difficult to be able to tell whether or not a nation has malicious intents, and I fully agree with you if the offending nation is a relative newcomer to TEP, but I see nothing wrong with long-standing, loyal citizens gaining more endorsements, and in fact I believe it is healthy for the region as a whole.

I have been guilty of "endoswapping" in the past, although I have not done it for some time and do not plan on ever doing it again, yet I also have a fairly high endorsement count. Most of these are merely from me endorsing nations who first endorsed me, and giving an endorsement to nations who have newly moved here to help them feel more welcome in the region, at which point they generally endorse me back (although that was not my intent when I endorsed them).

I have never endorsed twenty nations in a row trying to boost my endocount, and perhaps that could be a good rule of thumb, since if anyone is boosting that quickly it could be a red flag for a covert invasion. At the very least it would warrant deeper investigation, but I do not think immediate banishment is the way to go. It is good fuel for thought though, I will concede that I may be wrong. If the general consensus is for lowering the endocap and/or have rules for how quickly a nation can gain endorsements, I will of course stand behind those decisions.
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I wasn't so annoyed with the first, the second news 'reporter' that came through and posted the same news we already just heard about while the first news 'report' was still on the RMB did annoy me.

They be less annoying than regional ads but RMB ads for region have a theoretical purpose even if they don't work. Advertising a NS related site isn't as important and also could get out of hand. Also at least one of those (GNN) is run off a userite forum, so they are really advertising the regional forum of a region which might have already advertised.
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Ah, I didn't realize that there were two posts so close together, I only saw the first one by GNN. Also I didn't think about it in the light of re-advertising, that is something to consider as well... It would be difficult to prove if someone (say, GNN) was acting on behalf of a region for the express purpose of advertising. If said region had already given an advertisement that day, then the "news report" would certainly be in violation of ad regulations.

I really would like to see more IC inter-region posts though, I think it could be interesting and add quite a bit to the game. How to separate deliberate underhanded advertising from honest posts is the tricky part, and perhaps it would be easier to simply call any post with another regions name in it an advertisement, even if the person posting it isn't from that region...
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I wonder about news spim, too. If Doofus Unassuming NS News Outlet (DUNNO) reports (via linkage) a story about the region CHECK US OUT and later that day, the poor, deluded, misguided pouchy drone from CHECK US OUT posts his regional begging roo poo ... is this a technical violation of the 24-hour Rule?
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Chancellor Shaw
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I don't know how any of the higher-ups in our government are feeling about this, but the June Bloodletter from Unknown makes me sick. I wrote a bit of a rant on it in the Lounge, which is where Topid brought up a suggestion that I would like to bring to the people who can do something about it.

I believe we should close down our embassy in Unknown as a protest to them harbouring Rougiers and allowing him to continue to take part in their region. It does not matter if you vocalize your viewpoint against Forum Destruction, it is actions that matter. By not punishing Rougiers for the heinous crime he has committed Unknown is, for all intensive purposes, condoning his actions. His actions include Forum Destruction. Not only are they doing nothing about this crime, they are reaping the benefits that led up to the point of Forum Destruction. Essentially they are saying "Hey, we got what we wanted, who cares about anybody else, why should what that guy did concern us?"

Honestly, I am not even certain that we have an Embassy in Unknown, I am just assuming we do since they have one here. If no Embassy exists, perhaps an Arbiter or even DFD could publicly voice their disapproval? That is, if they in fact have disapproval. Maybe we should view this as something we are not involved in, and don't want to get involved in. Or perhaps our government does not think what Unknown is doing is actually wrong, in which case, as publicly elected officials, that is their call.

I simply bring this concern to the Magisterium, and leave it with you to decide if it is worth pursuing.
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I take forum destruction very seriously. Though it has happened a few times throughout NS history (if I had to ballpark it, about a dozen times at least) , I personally think it's one of the lowest things to do in the game, and feel that those who partake in such things are scum.

That being said, we have an embassy with them at this time, and they have one with us. As far as removing embassies, it's 5:44 am for me, and I haven't really formulated an opinion on this, lol. I need to read that letter again, but I heard about what happened. If anything, I think the Magisterium would be the one to determine if this embassy should be closed. Seeing as they're a little on the inactive side... though... I am not sure. Still, I will look the situation over and come up with an opinion tomorrow.
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I have no hesitations about speaking out against Rougiers AND Unknown ... if Unknown continues to accept him into their community, they share in his guilt. Noxious weeds need to be removed at the root. Rougiers (and any player or region who approved of or knew what he was planning but did nothing to stop him) should be considered a Govindian and shunned/rejected by every NS community.
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