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Citizenship in The East Pacific; Authorization of Admin to Assist Viceroy
Topic Started: Jul 28 2010, 12:16:57 PM (1,277 Views)
Barb
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Sergeant Hobo 678
WHEREAS

It is the desire of the Viceroy to encourage citizens of TEP to remain active; and

The Viceroy has conducted a thorough review of all nations seeking citizenship in the last six months and found eleven citizens for whom no nation exists and sent each a friendly PM asking them to please repost their ratification of the Concordat with an existing nation name; and

The Citizenship Suspension Act states:
Any one who is a citizen of the East Pacific and whose NationStates nation account has ceased to exist may have their citizenship and all rights and privileges pertaining thereunto suspended.; and

The previous Viceroy has firmly established the citizenship status of forum accounts that have been inactive longer than six months; and

It is the duty of the Viceroy to keep a list of citizens (lucky me!),

THEREFORE

The Viceroy hereby authorizes Arbiter Kandarin as Forum Admin to acknowledge the status of forum accounts who do not qualify as citizens by suspending their citizenship status in their forum grouping pursuant to the law of the region; and

Any player whose citizenship status is suspended may seek reinstatement of citizenship in The Citizenship Thread at any time - and is encouraged to do so; and

Any citizen displeased by this activity, which shall remain ongoing through the end of this term of this Viceroy, make seek relief from the Conclave in this thread.

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Fellow Arbiters: I reviewed threads previous to my election and this authorization seems to be consistent with a practice previously discussed and deemed reasonable. Your feedback in Chambers would be appreciated if you have any.

No one is on trial and no one is losing citizenship. It's being suspended pursuant to The Citizenship Suspension Act until the players who fall under the act set their affairs straight. I gave every player who applied in the last six months - and faces suspension - the courtesy of a personal PM from me inviting them to set the record straight and how to do it.
Barb
Arbiter Barbara Manatee
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Kandarin
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To clarify: I'm basically talking about suspending the citizen masks of the people who joined the forum in 2006, signed the governing document at the time and made three posts, and then disappeared. I'm exaggerating a bit and a lot of cases I'm thinking of are less extreme, but you get the general idea - there are some identifying characteristics that demonstrate with very little error which Citizens are never coming back.

That said, there are also a lot of citizens who are never coming back but did make meaningful contributions while they were there. We have a seperate user mask for those - Historical Protection. They shouldn't be kept on the citizen mask any more than the ephemeral citizens should, at least not if we want the Viceroy to be able to send out election bulletins without a massive headache.
"Torpored Caitiff Antediluvian"

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Kandarin should just implode from the sheer ridiculousness of it all.
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I mean, no nation could ever sustain that many contradicting belief systems and still exist.
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Barb
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Arbiter Kandarin has my deepest gratitude for helping me on this less than sexy housekeeping duty. If you would please PM me with your progress on Saturday at the latest, with your help I can post a current list of citizens before Magisterium elections begin.

It is important to the stability, security, and the fun of the region that we keep track of this.

To be VERY CLEAR to anyone who is accidentally caught up in this pinsweeping - and to anyone who returns to find their name removed from the list of citizens: no one is LOSING citizenship. The law requires that we restore the citizenship of anyone whose citizenship in TEP is lawfully (or accidentally) suspended if you are now eligible to be a citizen.

We WANT you here and we welcome anyone back who has been inactive for any reason and for any period of time.
Barb
Arbiter Barbara Manatee
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Convicted Thief of the Crown of the Vizier

Keep TEP beautiful!

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Kandarin
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Since this is something with a potential wide effect, I'd like to post the changes made in public. So without further ado...

Citizens retired to member usergroup
11 dimensions
abyssmal07
akrowdy
Aldemeiris
Alexander
Alyss
Amairicka
Amayami
Anur-Sanur
Apollo Deuce
ariaden
autumnwindz
Baby
Benjamin Crawford
brainy100111
branveriaroyalty
Branin
Bunnithia
Cable and wireless
Calabi-Yau Manifold
Caniega
Cantabrigiens
Cashania
Censtall
Charlemagne VI
Chicca
Claus
Coffee and Biscotti
Coradin
Countess
Cow Eaters
Crazakhastan
Cthulhuton
Darkexilereborn
Darkstryder
Deflagratio
Deitus
Dmitriov
Duke of Normandy
Eastern Imperium
Einharjer
Eminent Manatee
Empire of Dromeda
En Too See
Eviliciousness
Extreme Lulz
First Elder of Taeem
frostholy
geojf3
Gertia
Gilbert n Sullivan Is
Grunt 5quad
Half-Opportunists
High Commerce
Hoi Oligoi
Howtowdie
Hunting Eagles
Hyetsu
Ice Breakers
Icewolf2249
Imstar
inthesticks
Irelandiana
Isimud
Jaybooker
Jeredius
Joys
Kadeusz
kamn
kardinaele
Kay
Koyomitachi
Kurdazistan
Kurtaz
Lady Desire
LadyClavicles
Leftogia
Lord Alphanesia
Lots of Ants
lowbrook
luredreier
Lushest
Lyncaenia
Marajo Island
Marcusss
Marijuanita
Mehden
migster99
Mitsi
MFUSR
Michelsland
moderiskia
Moonrakers
Ms Spaceship
Muzesh
Myan Al 'Khali
New Argimania
New Kahlifonia
New Tallon IV
NGM
Notnormal
Onderkelkia
Ordimus
Overcaffeinated
Parksburghvilleton
Pasagardae
pderu
Philipran
Philosophical Flux
Phocks
Picklesopolis
Poseidon Tribe
Powerhungry Chipmunks
Praetorius
Promise of Joshua
PsychoKlown
quantonia
Quornia
Qzecouatl
Rackat
Raikatuji
ratcut
r3naissanc3r
Republic of Blanchettia
Republic of Caddistan
Republic of Macungie Swamp
Rose
Rovlofth
Sarcasnia
Shadygray
Sheeporia
Silbernes
Silverion
Sinverin
Sigilliya
Sirkesalo
Skandranon
Star Blade
Starlavium
Staro
Suvarnnabhum
Tellurian Amethyst
The Commonwealth of Geldhame
The Dominion of Nechronia
The Free Land of West Pants
The Inquisitor Nation
The Kingdom of Frotworth
the land of alex
The Terrible Panic
therrydicule
Thirrinides
Tokka wokka
Torfaen
Transdanubien
Vincci
Welshlend
Welshrup
Will of Albion
willensstark
Winterchill
wrathful people
Wyano
wyreland
w_ashley
Zarzan
Zileas
Zyber

Citizens reverted to historical-protection usergroup
Algaisia
Anglic Jutland
Bakostrovia
Black Panther Cats
Emperor Matthuis
Fish Island
Flemingovia
Gnidrah
Howard Dean
Jericho and Nablus
Krechzianko
Lofturior
Mallumo
Milesandia
Nameless Ness
Nnyobrugium
Papercuts & Skittles
Pheonix 101
Playstation Portable
Quy
Spectacular Pastries
Stagnationstan
The Faeyas
The Wachovia Coalition
Tingst
Vladistock Island Delegate
Xiopothos Chief Administrator
"Torpored Caitiff Antediluvian"

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Kandarin should just implode from the sheer ridiculousness of it all.
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I mean, no nation could ever sustain that many contradicting belief systems and still exist.
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Kandarin
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And in addition...

Active Citizens with intact nations - NS nation is listed second after a / if it differs from the citizen's forum alias
1 Infinite Loop / Infinite Loop
A mean old man / The Nagxbeki Tribe
Allegheny / South Allegheny
Angry Dentists
Bai Lung
BlackSparrow / BlackSparrows
Bolshikstan
Chancellor Shaw / Moafin
Cloudous
Cloudy / Reviati
Dalimbar
Dannistaan
Der Fuhrer Dyszel / Lady Edea
Drakkengard
Dyr Nasad
East Malaysia
Estegoraine
Free Pacific States
Great Teveria
High Shaman of the Third Sea / The Third Sea
Inquirius / Elysium Unearthed
Jacob Clinton / Costada
Juthra
Kalibarr / Kalibarr II
Kandarin / Kandary
Kangarawa
Kelssek
Kurogasa
Lazlow / Lazlowia
migster99 / Ilvium
Morhams
North Harmoneia / East Harmoneia
Northrop-Grumman / P4X-582
Nylter
Packilvania
Pan Master
Penndale
Reziel
Rynyl
SCKnightVulshain / Vulshain
Shivat
Silverion / Cheshire Falls
Smigsachenweiz
Southern Yugoslavia
TAO / -TAO-
Terasu / Elafos
Todd McCloud
The Angel of Death / Yugoslavikia
The Vacationer
Tutchone
Ultharambassadorbarbara / Barbara Manatee
United Ozians
Veerilion
Warre
yk001nul / Fyrdowsi
Yuki / Kandorith
Zeux / Legionsz

Active Citizens whose nations just need a revive
Alejandro the Penguin / Cypracia
Caffeinetopia
Coocoostan
Darkesia / The Fridge Owl Menace
Dovakhan
Haor Chall / The Aquinas Network
Kasu / Meshef
Really Nice Hats
Topid / Heartkillers

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And beyond that there's a large collection of gray areas, some of which would no doubt be more clear-cut with more information - for instance, I'm sure most of the nations listed as ex-pats or unknown but active citizens do have nations in TEP - I just don't recall what those nations are. Any more info from citizens to help me sort this stuff would be helpful:

Puppets of Active Citizens - Accounts registered as extra citizens for editing abilities in RP. Not losing the Citizen mask, just acknowledging which they are here if not their owners. I feel like there should be a separate mask for this.
AirbusUK
East Dannistaan
Grayson Islands
Monkey Astronauts
Moro Pacific Liberation Front
Nahris
Nice Magical Hats

Active Citizens whose nations slip my mind - I'm fairly sure these folks have nations in TEP, but I don't remember what those nations are.
Antracia
Gulliver
Jaybooker
Oh My Days
Zero Sum

Ex-pats - Had a main TEP nation, which left. If there's a replacement, I don't know what it is.
British Grand Pacific
Fabricati Diem
Federal Republic of Free Avalon
gauron316
Iwaqin
Ridann

Ambassadors - I use the term loosely here. These are players that I know are quite active elsewhere in NS, but aren't very active here. They have a primary identitification with some other region and never significantly participated internally in TEP, but got Citizenship so they could edit their posts. There are a lot of these folks, and I feel like there needs to be an ambassador mask of some sort to meet their needs without requiring them to pledge citizenship to TEP.
Aegara
Aisli
Brightonburg
Charon
Earth22
Eluvatar
H. Savaer
Hadisthe
HEM
Killer Kitty
Knockavale
Krulltopia
newearth
New Kervoskia
North East Somerset
Red Back
Viktoria Gryfynn
Westwind

Logged into the forum but otherwise silent - No nation, no posts in a really long time, but logs in without posting sometimes. Moved to the member or historical protection categories.
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Kandarin should just implode from the sheer ridiculousness of it all.
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I mean, no nation could ever sustain that many contradicting belief systems and still exist.
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Kandarin
Jul 30 2010, 08:06 AM
Citizens reverted to historical-protection usergroup

Flemingovia

:blink:

HP for... :??: :??: :??:

Having banned me on TWP's forum as soon as I tried to vouch against the lynching mob during the Matthuis accident? If so, then... wow! I suppose I'm entitled to HP there too, then! :lol:



And methink there's AirbusUK, somewhere... surely it has editing abilities. Not sure of the mask, though!

EDIT... uhm... it seems AirbusUK has no more editing powers. Mind checking? It's ratherv useful for me, indeed... :blink:
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"Coffee and Biscotti" was one of my puppets used for RP'ing purposes. It can be removed from the members' list, lol.
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Kurogasa
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Great job, Kand.

although, shouldn't Kurd go to the HP?, just a doubt...
I don't want to conquer the world, I want the people to put me as their leader for themselves (or I will have to conquer it, anyways it will be mine soon).

"What is a rebel? A man who says no" -Albert Camus-

"The greatest joy a man can know is to conquer his enemies and drive them before him. To ride their horses and take away their possessions. To see the faces of those who were dear to them bedewed with tears, and to clasp their wives and daughters in his arms." -Genghis Khan-
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Kandarin
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Reziel
Jul 30 2010, 10:33 AM
Kandarin
Jul 30 2010, 08:06 AM
Citizens reverted to historical-protection usergroup

Flemingovia

:blink:

HP for... :??: :??: :??:

Having banned me on TWP's forum as soon as I tried to vouch against the lynching mob during the Matthuis accident? If so, then... wow! I suppose I'm entitled to HP there too, then! :lol:



And methink there's AirbusUK, somewhere... surely it has editing abilities. Not sure of the mask, though!

EDIT... uhm... it seems AirbusUK has no more editing powers. Mind checking? It's ratherv useful for me, indeed... :blink:

Airbus has a Citizen mask now, and is on the list.

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"Coffee and Biscotti" was one of my puppets used for RP'ing purposes. It can be removed from the members' list, lol.


Thanks. I just didn't want people trying to use those accounts and being unable to edit, but since you know you're not going to use it again, I'll take it off.

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Great job, Kand.

although, shouldn't Kurd go to the HP?, just a doubt...


The HP is for people who made a meaningful enough contribution to the region that I hold out some hope that maybe, someday, they might remember us and check back in. If they do, I want them to know that they were remembered. I don't care what Kurd thinks, so he goes in the Member group. ;)
"Torpored Caitiff Antediluvian"

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Kandarin should just implode from the sheer ridiculousness of it all.
ClipSnap says:
I mean, no nation could ever sustain that many contradicting belief systems and still exist.
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Kurogasa
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Kandarin
Jul 30 2010, 04:30 PM
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Great job, Kand.

although, shouldn't Kurd go to the HP?, just a doubt...


The HP is for people who made a meaningful enough contribution to the region that I hold out some hope that maybe, someday, they might remember us and check back in. If they do, I want them to know that they were remembered. I don't care what Kurd thinks, so he goes in the Member group. ;)


Ha!, I see...well, I don't know what he did in the region and he's banned anyway, so...I agree...
I don't want to conquer the world, I want the people to put me as their leader for themselves (or I will have to conquer it, anyways it will be mine soon).

"What is a rebel? A man who says no" -Albert Camus-

"The greatest joy a man can know is to conquer his enemies and drive them before him. To ride their horses and take away their possessions. To see the faces of those who were dear to them bedewed with tears, and to clasp their wives and daughters in his arms." -Genghis Khan-
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Kandarin
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I've cleared up some gray areas, done a little more investigation, and hammered out some kinks. I've also added a list of nation names to the lists of active citizens with either active nations or CTEd but identified nations, so the list can be used for TG campaigns to citizens as well as PM campaigns. And with that, I think the record is in good enough shape that the Viceroy can maintain it from here on out, although some investigation may be in order for the few remaining citizens with absent/unknown nations.

The Ambassador thing is still a gray area, so I'm going over to the Magisterium to see if they can come up with criteria for user registration for an edit-capable ambassador usergroup and (hopefully) transfer of the rather large number of obvious ambassador-types to that group. I realize that many of the people I've categorized as "ambassadors" probably really are internal, just low-key, but if one is going to act only as an ambassador one shouldn't have to go through naturalization for it.
"Torpored Caitiff Antediluvian"

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ClipSnap says:
Kandarin should just implode from the sheer ridiculousness of it all.
ClipSnap says:
I mean, no nation could ever sustain that many contradicting belief systems and still exist.
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I have to say that you did a great work on this list. There's only one thing that I would add, since I'm not good in these things is, that it should be noted which puppet account belongs to who.
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Kandarin
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There's one of those puppets for which I'm not 100% certain the puppetmaster wants their identity known. It's a good idea, but I'll go check on that one.
"Torpored Caitiff Antediluvian"

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Kandarin should just implode from the sheer ridiculousness of it all.
ClipSnap says:
I mean, no nation could ever sustain that many contradicting belief systems and still exist.
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This is a poo load of work, Kandarin. Thanks for taking on such a monumental task.
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Barb
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I owe Kandarin a big hug. I never could have done this level of citizen list maintenance without his knowledge of TEP history.

I agree that Ambassadors who don't have a nation here ought to have their own group. Anyone who applied for citizenship in the last 6 months whose nation was not found anywhere in NS received a PM from me at the beginning of the week asking them to clear that up. Last I checked, one of the eleven I contacted did.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. In review of past election practices, the Concordat, and laws, it is my understanding that:

1. Not having a nation in NS suspends citizenship on two counts:
- Concordat grants citizenship rights like voting to nations, not players
- Citizenship Suspension Act

2. Not having a nation in TEP (being an expat) means you can't hold office, which implies that you can't run for it.

3. During elections, citizens continue to be naturalized, but moving to TEP during an election does not grant voting rights to new arrivals for half a dozen obvious reasons.

I will post a list of Citizens tonight or tomorrow. It will not include players whose nations have not been found or are known to be CTE'd. If anyone previously granted citizenship feels unfairly excluded, they can post that complaint here or simply re-establish their ratification of Concordat and point to their nation in the Citizenship thread. Any errors or omissions will be corrected, and the list will be amended.

Hopefully this major housecleaning will encourage activity and promote active and fair elections.

EDIT: As a courtesy to older citizens whose nations are unknown, I sent a PM to all of them today asking for them to simply PM me their nation name. I will add them to the Citizenship list when they do.
Barb
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http://www.nationstates.net/nation=topid_reborn

That should be my permanent nation now... Though I move nations around a lot.

If I move again what should I do so that you know this...

(Or should I just NOT move again for sure.)

FYI i moved Heartkiller out (I think) for defender mission, or something. Anyway, I had moved TR in here before, so I was never without a nation here.
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Kandarin
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Ex-pats - Had a main TEP nation, which left. If there's a replacement, I don't know what it is.

Arundel-Dacre is the replacement/puppet.
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Barb
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List updated - thank you for clarifications.
:lol:

Topoid, you may move your nations around as you please. It's a right in TEP.

It also makes it more of a chore for us to keep track of Citizenship - but it's our duty and you may do as you please. But when we have an election and the rights of TEP citizens are an issue, it would be nice if veteran citizens just PM'd the Viceroy (me at this moment) if you have moved your chess pieces around and have a new resident nation in TEP so we don't have to "run you through security" again.

Thanks!
Barb
Arbiter Barbara Manatee
Ulthar Ambassador to The East Pacific
Convicted Thief of the Crown of the Vizier

Keep TEP beautiful!

The practice of peace and reconciliation is one of the most vital and artistic of human actions. - Thich Nhat Hanh
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Todd McCloud: don't feed the trolls
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Vulshain: you don't want the disco-roller skating bots to come
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Kurogasa: honest to Quetzalcoatl
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May I recommend an updated citizen list posted in the citizenship sub-forum? Maybe have it updated for elections and any other important events (or just say 'updated as of (some date)').
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Barb
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I'll link to the official one. I'm afraid I might update one and forget to update the other. I've had to edit this post at least twice a day since it was first put up.
Barb
Arbiter Barbara Manatee
Ulthar Ambassador to The East Pacific
Convicted Thief of the Crown of the Vizier

Keep TEP beautiful!

The practice of peace and reconciliation is one of the most vital and artistic of human actions. - Thich Nhat Hanh
Quote:
 
Todd McCloud: don't feed the trolls
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Vulshain: you don't want the disco-roller skating bots to come
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Kurogasa: honest to Quetzalcoatl
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Nalt
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DO NOT WANT!!!!!!
Hmmm, I'll be sure to PM you if I do in the future, which I actually plan to down the road... :lol: Although for the record having the right to do something doesn't mean it causes to much trouble to do.

Would a thread to post when you move your nation be possible?
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Excellent work on the list guys!
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