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Policy with Endorsements Received; 1 Endorsement for 1 Endorsement=Equality
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Romania and Moldova
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Hello friends!

I am relatively new in game and citizen in region.

Because I had a policy to give endorsement to receive endorsement, I was threatened to eject the region that I managed to have over 80 endorsements. :blink:

It is not fair to be treated just with eject because I went on policy by par with endorsements.

The problem is simple, I give an endorsement and getting an endorsement. Equality!

Now I want to talk for abolish rule by limitation endorsement. Why do I want to talk? Because I understood that this region has the motto: Liberty! Fraternity! Equality! and most of all, Dignity!

I did not Liberty to get more endorsements.
I did not Fraternity because they are not treated as a brother
I did not Equality because I'm not allowed to receive endorsements, but I allowed to give to others.

I ask for Dignity to be respected the motto... or no I'm not allowed to have dignity? :blink:
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There is a reason the endorsement cap is there. We have a government, you know. You can't just show up and start grabbing endorsements left and right.
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Rules as rules, but where I am I entitled?
I don't have right to have more endorsements? Why not?
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Romania and Moldova
Oct 24 2010, 01:25 PM
Rules as rules, but where I am I entitled?
I don't have right to have more endorsements? Why not?

Security reasons. All nations are capped at 80; you can request your cap to raised to 100 if you're a long time member of the East Pacific.
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For problems with security, is a text, every problem limited has solutions unlimited.

It is not fair to be violated citizens rights for security in region.
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There is no "right" to gather endorsements in NationStates.
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Romania and Moldova
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But right to give endorsements? Where is equality? I gave endorsements, why not right for get?
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There is not a right to give endorsements, either, merely no restriction upon that action. The lack of restriction upon giving endorsements does not in any way relate to the restriction on receiving endorsements.
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Dust in eye. In game, Endorse is purpose to exchange with endorsements between nations!
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Yes, you can endorse and get endorsed to your heart's content, until you hit the endo cap. Then it becomes a matter of security.
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Do not understand, security problem? Why is it a problem to have more endorsements?
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Romania and Moldova
Oct 24 2010, 02:22 PM
Do not understand, security problem? Why is it a problem to have more endorsements?

http://www.nationstates.net/page=faq#WA

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What's a Regional Delegate?

The nation with the most endorsements in each region at the time of the daily tally is automatically elected Regional Delegate.

Usually, a Delegate is the region's administrator. She can access Regional Control to alter the region's World Factbook Entry, set a password, and eject other nations. (In regions with a Founder, though, the Founder may override Delegate decisions and even deny the Delegate access to administrative powers.)

A Delegate also represents the region before the World Assembly. She can review upcoming proposals for legislation and promote those she approves. When legislation reaches the resolution voting floor, she wields additional voting power over regular WA members: 1 extra vote for each endorsement. Delegates of large regions therefore have considerable influence over whether resolutions pass or fail.

A nation must have at least one endorsement to be elected Regional Delegate.
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I do not want to be a delegate of the region, I to have endorsements with other nations, and nothing more. The fact that I had more is as a result for my work with policy by endorsement.

As I said above, every problem limited has solutions unlimited.

Search other solutions for region's security, are you afraid of a beginner, who knew how to gather endorsements? Think that if I gather slightly, which can make a player with experience. :blink:
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Romania and Moldova
Oct 24 2010, 02:52 PM
I do not want to be a delegate of the region, I to have endorsements with other nations, and nothing more. The fact that I had more is as a result for my work with policy by endorsement.

As I said above, every problem limited has solutions unlimited.

Search other solutions for region's security, are you afraid of a beginner, who knew how to gather endorsements? Think that if I gather slightly, which can make a player with experience. :blink:

There is no other reason as to why you want as many endorsements as you can get. If you want a crapload of endorsements, go to Lazarus. They have more nations than we do.
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I'm not interested in another region. Here we started, here remain.
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Romania and Moldova
Oct 24 2010, 03:00 PM
I'm not interested in another region. Here we started, here remain.

That sounds like a shallow excuse.

There are other regions that you can get as many endorsements as you want and no one would probably care. Why this one? Hmm?
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So long as you are here, you have to abide by the rules. You can try to change them -- we have frequent delegate and legislative elections -- but otherwise, you must follow them.
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I said as I started playing here and I will continue to play here. I am not allowed? :blink:
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Oct 24 2010, 03:04 PM
So long as you are here, you have to abide by the rules. You can try to change them -- we have frequent delegate and legislative elections -- but otherwise, you must follow them.

That's why I opened the topic to discuss this rule with endorsements.

Why can not I edit my post above?
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Oct 24 2010, 03:10 PM
Free Pacific States
Oct 24 2010, 03:04 PM
So long as you are here, you have to abide by the rules. You can try to change them -- we have frequent delegate and legislative elections -- but otherwise, you must follow them.

That's why I opened the topic to discuss this rule with endorsements.

Why can not I edit my post above?

Only citizens of the TEP that have their accounts validated can edit their posts.
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Oct 24 2010, 03:13 PM
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Oct 24 2010, 03:04 PM
So long as you are here, you have to abide by the rules. You can try to change them -- we have frequent delegate and legislative elections -- but otherwise, you must follow them.

That's why I opened the topic to discuss this rule with endorsements.

Why can not I edit my post above?

Only citizens of the TEP that have their accounts validated can edit their posts.

I am confused, I'm in region, are citizen or not?
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I read through some of your stuff.

With respect to rights, sure, you may collect endorsements in this region. That's not a right; that's a game mechanic - it's built into the game. However, the established government may put a cap on that. That's what we have. We currently only have four nations that can go over the cap, including the delegate. For those three, they were either made into a Vizier, or specifically asked to go over the cap and it was granted to them by the delegate. Regardless, they were allowed to do so.

Now, your policy is to give endorsements out and collect them. The fact that you don't want to be a delegate is irrelevant - our law states for you to keep endorsement totals below eighty, so, you're going to have to keep it below eighty. Let me put some perspective on it. It could be my real-life policy to own a tiger. Where I live, you can be fined, maybe even go to jail for owning a tiger. It's a law in my city that I can't own an exotic pet. So, if I buy a tiger and make it my pet, I run the risk of having it taken away from me, getting fined, going to jail, etc. It's only a matter of time until I'm caught. If I really, really want to own a tiger, however, I may instead try to look for a place I can live in where owning a tiger is allowed.

It's like that. Your policy is to collect endos. Our law states you can't go above eighty. We will be nice and warn you that you're above the cap (which is what I did yesterday), but if you keep collecting endorsements passed eighty, or just remain over eighty, we're going to have to eject you. Now, if you really want to collect above eighty endorsements, I'd suggest going to another region that allows you to do that. But, trust me, there is so much more to this game than collecting endorsements. I hope you stay with us, because this region has a lot to offer here. All we ask is that you keep your endorsement totals below eighty. That's been our law for almost two years now.

Trust me. You're going to want to stay below that eighty mark. We have a good region here, and a lot for you here. However, if you want to keep your totals above eighty, I'm sorry, but there's not much else we can do here. So, I ask you to reconsider your policy. Ask a few nations to unendorse you, and once they do, things will be good. Stay away from the eighty mark after that, and we're good.
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Oct 24 2010, 03:16 PM
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Free Pacific States
Oct 24 2010, 03:04 PM
So long as you are here, you have to abide by the rules. You can try to change them -- we have frequent delegate and legislative elections -- but otherwise, you must follow them.

That's why I opened the topic to discuss this rule with endorsements.

Why can not I edit my post above?

Only citizens of the TEP that have their accounts validated can edit their posts.

I am confused, I'm in region, are citizen or not?

Perhaps if you'd actually cared to read the sticky topics, you would know that you have to apply for citizenship on the forums before you are validated and can edit your posts, which leads me to believe that you have ulterior motives beyond just "getting more endorsements'.
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Romania and Moldova
Oct 24 2010, 04:16 PM
Senvroth
Oct 24 2010, 03:13 PM
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Oct 24 2010, 03:10 PM
Free Pacific States
Oct 24 2010, 03:04 PM
So long as you are here, you have to abide by the rules. You can try to change them -- we have frequent delegate and legislative elections -- but otherwise, you must follow them.

That's why I opened the topic to discuss this rule with endorsements.

Why can not I edit my post above?

Only citizens of the TEP that have their accounts validated can edit their posts.

I am confused, I'm in region, are citizen or not?

You are a member of the region - you have a nation here, and your nation is in our region. To become a citizen, you need to agree to our Concordat, located here:

http://z1.invisionfree.com/forums/The_East...?showtopic=6152

Just read over our concordat, and if you agree to it, post a reply with your nation name and that you accept it. Give it a few days for our Viceroy to accept or deny your citizenship (usually she accepts it!)
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For Senvroth:

I am new to this game, guilty is that the region delegate don't told me about citizen and Concordat.

For Todd McCloud:

I have explained the situation with owning a tiger. I do not want to be the owner of the tiger, I want to be a cat owner, and any citizen can be the owner of cats, oddly enough, You do not agree for owning of cats.
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Romania and Moldova
Oct 24 2010, 03:35 PM
For Senvroth:

I am new to this game, guilty is that the region delegate don't told me about citizen and Concordat.

For Todd McCloud:

I have explained the situation with owning a tiger. I do not want to be the owner of the tiger, I want to be a cat owner, and any citizen can be the owner of cats, oddly enough, You do not agree for owning of cats.

The Concordat and citizenship/ratification thread stickied. If anyone is guilty, it should be you for not being able to read.

And to respond to your "cat" comparison:

Yes, you want to own cats. Everyone owns cats. What makes you so special that you can own more cats than everyone else?
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Oct 24 2010, 04:35 PM
For Senvroth:

I am new to this game, guilty is that the region delegate don't told me about citizen and Concordat.

For Todd McCloud:

I have explained the situation with owning a tiger. I do not want to be the owner of the tiger, I want to be a cat owner, and any citizen can be the owner of cats, oddly enough, You do not agree for owning of cats.

Before the tiger thing gets out of hand, that was only an analogy :P

Our rules are very cut-and-dry. Just don't go over the cap. If you can't, we have to eject you. It's nothing personal, and I personally don't want to see you ejected, but that's our policy. If you don't agree with it, that's fine, but that doesn't stop the law from being enforced.
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No matter what the topic was made sticky, I'm not received guidance that matter, remember that i'm are a beginner.

The fact that I know how to care for cats, is very important. :lol:
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Oct 24 2010, 03:45 PM
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Oct 24 2010, 04:35 PM
For Senvroth:

I am new to this game, guilty is that the region delegate don't told me about citizen and Concordat.

For Todd McCloud:

I have explained the situation with owning a tiger. I do not want to be the owner of the tiger, I want to be a cat owner, and any citizen can be the owner of cats, oddly enough, You do not agree for owning of cats.

Before the tiger thing gets out of hand, that was only an analogy :P

Our rules are very cut-and-dry. Just don't go over the cap. If you can't, we have to eject you. It's nothing personal, and I personally don't want to see you ejected, but that's our policy. If you don't agree with it, that's fine, but that doesn't stop the law from being enforced.

Now is the limit with endorsements, let's talk to change the rule, you afraid of me?
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Romania and Moldova
Oct 24 2010, 03:46 PM
No matter what the topic was made sticky, I'm not received guidance that matter, remember that i'm are a beginner.

The fact that I know how to care for cats, is very important. :lol:

Considering the fact that the Citizenship section is among one of the first things you see upon entering this forum, your excuse is, frankly, void. Not so much a fact that you're a beginner, more of a fact that you don't read.

Yea, you can care for cats. I can care for cats. Todd can care for cats. Everyone in NationStates can care for cats. So I reiterate again - what makes you so special that you get to have more cats than everyone else?
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