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| Anur-Sanur Citizenship Denied; INTERESTED PARTIES ONLY | |
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| Topic Started: Oct 24 2010, 07:43:56 PM (1,014 Views) | |
| Barb | Oct 24 2010, 07:43:56 PM Post #1 |
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Viceroy invite Anur-Sanur to address Conclave with a matter she has described as urgent. EDIT: Anur-Sanur declined and asked that Viceroy address her citizenship status first. Okie dokie. This proceeding is subject to the Standing Orders of Conclave and the law of The East Pacific. |
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Barb Arbiter Barbara Manatee Ulthar Ambassador to The East Pacific Convicted Thief of the Crown of the Vizier Keep TEP beautiful! The practice of peace and reconciliation is one of the most vital and artistic of human actions. - Thich Nhat Hanh
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| Barb | Oct 25 2010, 01:13:34 PM Post #2 |
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Sergeant Hobo 678
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You may. Concordat states... The Viceroy shall be charged with overseeing the naturalization process and the Viceroy shall maintain a record of all citizens. The use of the Citizenship thread to track citizenship status was a practice of all previous Viceroys which I have continued. As long as I serve in Conclave, naturalization shall be public and transparent. Because that allows us to welcome you and to maintain a public process of tracking citizenship. Requiring you to post publicly that you have returned and want your citizenship suspension lifted is not "unwarranted." You joined the forum in January 2009 and stopped after 21 posts. Your citizenship was suspended by a previous Viceroy. That wasn't personal because you CTE'd. Since your return you have engaged in much personal debate:
We are not paranoid. We aren't slanderers. We haven't acted illegally. We haven't injured you or ignored you. We aren't afraid to debate and we aren't cowards. Lifting your citizenship suspension for CTE is denied. My grounds are that you are persistently vexatious and disruptive. You have displayed disdain for the laws and leaders of the region. You have raised more hell in 3 days than any nation I have seen since I moved here. Your name calling and accusations are a threat to region morale. I would rather face a challenge of this decision in Conclave than have to deal with any additional arguments, insults, and accusations spread across our forum. You are advised that Conclave is the only venue for challenging this decision. Please do it in this thread and only in this thread. Our Standing Orders state that Anur-Sanur has 3 days from the posting of my denial of Citizenship and re-titling this thread to post here or the appeal of the decision of Viceroy is waived and this thread will be locked. |
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| Barb | Oct 26 2010, 01:28:23 PM Post #3 |
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Sergeant Hobo 678
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I have received a PM from Anur Sanur. As it is improper for Arbiters to discuss matters before Conclave privately pursuant to Concordat: we are required to consider matters "in open session" - I'll post the Q & A here.
I don't know how to better educate you on this. SOC states: "Section VI: Trial Process 1. Any citizens or members may bring up accusations of offending members or citizens for the Conclave to review in the form of a post topic. These accusations must include the accused person(s) and offense(s) they are accused of committing in addition to any witnesses or advocates each side wishes to appear before the trial. 2. Any offenses brought to the attention of the Conclave must be determined to merit the need for a trial. The Conclave may have no more than one week to determine if a trial is needed by active Arbiter majority vote, and the acceptance of any advocates and witnesses proposed. 3. If a trial is deemed unnecessary, the Viceroy is charged with explaining why a trial is not granted and may offer advice as to how the issue may be resolved. Arbiters may be called to offer advice as well. The post topic is then locked. 4. If a trial is deemed necessary, the Viceroy is charged with pinning a topic that designates a motion for trial. In the opening post, the Viceroy must establish the conflicting parties, charges brought upon the accused person(s) by the accuser(s), and if the trial is open to public comments or is private. 5. The Viceroy is charged with guiding the direction of the trial: from the motion, to evidence provided by the accuser(s), to defense of the accused person(s), to opening the floor for questions, and suspending the trial to allow for arbiters to reach a sentence and verdict. Only those given clearance to post during the trial may do so as directed by the Viceroy and in response to a question proposed by an Arbiter. 6. Any party or Arbiter who becomes aware of a witness with relevant information as to the legality of a bill or the guilt or innocence of any party before the Conclave may petition the Viceroy during proceedings to amend the list of nations allowed to present evidence or argument. Once a vote has been taken, any such submission would be in the form of a Motion To Reconsider the matter based upon new evidence. 7. The accuser(s) have three days maximum to present enough evidence to convict the accused person(s). If the accuser(s) do not provide evidence in the time allotted, the trial is ended and declared void. 8. Once the evidence has been presented, the accused person(s) have three days maximum to provide a defense. If the accused person(s) do not provide a defense in the time allotted, the defense is dismissed. 9. Either side may call upon witnesses that have been cleared by the Viceroy, and request for more time, which may be granted by the Viceroy in the form of a numerical amount. 10. When the floor is opened for questions Arbiters may act as prosecutors in order to better assess the situation. The parties involved may only comment on questions asked by the Arbiters. 11. Trials are to last two weeks or until active arbiters have finished asking relevant questions, in which they must request for more time prior to the two weeks’ end. The thread is then locked by the Viceroy until a verdict is reached and a motion for debating between Arbiters is enacted. 12. To debate on a verdict and sentence, Arbiters will retire to a private subforum. Arbiters are not to speak about the debate elsewhere or rely on outside sources to affect their judgment. 13. If either party is found electioneering (attempting to sway the outcome of the trial outside of the trial thread), further consequences will be debated by the Conclave." That's as specific as it gets. I encourage you to read trial threads subsequent to SOC to see how that plays out. You have the right to challenge the determination of Viceroy that denied you citizenship. 24 hours of the 72 hours you have to appeal have expired. You ask for further consideration to delay the trial about which SOC is silent. Granted. The clock is stopped at 24 hours and the thread is locked until you are ready. Please PM me when you are. I will PM you when the trial is scheduled and you will then have 48 hours to post your initial appeal. A proceeding here isn't something that happens in a moment. Unless some immediate or urgent relief is sought, it is something we schedule. I offered an immediate appeal and you have declined. Since it now pleases you to wait, PM me and I'll put it on the Conclave calendar. Do not expect that it will start immediately upon your request. This is a game. Not everyone logs in every day. There is other stuff we do here that may require our attention as well. |
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