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Arbiter Nomination
Topic Started: Jul 6 2011, 09:48:01 PM (3,205 Views)
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I'm carrying over my AYE from the previous term.
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Nay. We need to actually elect a Provost, what you need to do is hold legitimate Provost elections then whoever is Provost holds the vote. Am I not right Mr. Viceroy Kurogasa?

EDIT: I am only voting against because this isn't the right procedure.
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I vote - Aye
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Good gravy.
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I motion that we set this isue on the table until we resolve all disputes that have to do with the provost
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As much as I want to get this Arbiter nomination from last session out of the way, I second the motion in an effort to follow the spirit of the law...

Let's revisit this once we have our ducks in a row.
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Generally, parliamentary procedure allows for rules of order to be set aside with unanimous consent. There also isn't actually anything that requires a Provost to have been elected first. However, when a session is over an a new Magisterium elected, if we are to ape the norms of Parliament, all unfinished business from the previous session dies, ends, kaput, ex-parrot.

The Viceroy has no power over the Magisterium. Absolutely none. If you read the Concordat you'll see this is a divided powers system, and the Viceroy is an agent of the executive - that is, the delegate. Even the notion that the Viceroy can have any say on the election of the Provost, which is entirely an internal Magisterium matter, is a grave and incorrect overstep of the bounds. And we most certainly should not be appealing to the Viceroy to clarify internal matters.

All that said, with the absolute dog's breakfast this has become, we ought to leave this thread aside now and have a proper ratification vote in the new and current session.
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Kelssek is absolutely right, this is an internal matter, Viceroy (currently me) has no saying.
I don't want to conquer the world, I want the people to put me as their leader for themselves (or I will have to conquer it, anyways it will be mine soon).

"What is a rebel? A man who says no" -Albert Camus-

"The greatest joy a man can know is to conquer his enemies and drive them before him. To ride their horses and take away their possessions. To see the faces of those who were dear to them bedewed with tears, and to clasp their wives and daughters in his arms." -Genghis Khan-
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The one thing that I would like to hear is if Southern Yugoslavia accepts the position. I will send them a PM to post here in clarification.

And, Kelssek, the Conclave overturned the clause of the Standing Orders that is based upon unanimous concent.
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Aug 17 2011, 01:50 AM
And, Kelssek, the Conclave overturned the clause of the Standing Orders that is based upon unanimous concent.

That has solely to do with the passing of legislation. As a matter of rules of order, unanimous consent to avoid pointless procedure is an integral and well accepted part of parliamentary proceedings.
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The one thing that I would like to hear is if Southern Yugoslavia accepts the position. I will send them a PM to post here in clarification.

And, Kelssek, the Conclave overturned the clause of the Standing Orders that is based upon unanimous concent.

I accept the nomination.
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Well, since Southern Yugoslavia has accepted his nomination, I guess we can continue voting. My vote of 'AYE' has not changed.
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Magister Is Wa votes Aye
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My vote is 'Aye'
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Aye
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Results Thus Far:
Vulshain - AYE
Is wa - AYE
Stateless - AYE
Reminisci - AYE
Kelssek - ?

With that, we have over 3/4's majority in favour of the nomination. Will it be unanimous?
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The vote stays open for 72 hours or until everyone has voted. Wait for Kelssek.
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The vote stays open for 72 hours or until everyone has voted. Wait for Kelssek.

I know... This is why I used such terminology as "thus far" and "Will it be...?" ;)
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Hm...Okay. If Kelssek doesn't vote by 1:00PM tomorrow, I will officially declare this nomination successfully, since we have 3/4 votes already. What say the rest of you?
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And with that, I hereby announce that Southern Yugoslavia's nomination to be our newest Arbiter has been approved by every member of the Magisterium!

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Good job Southern Yugoslavia
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Is there another step for this? or is he an Arbiter?
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Nope, with the ratification passed the appointment is effective.
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Someone *looks at the Provost* should officially notify the Viceroy of Southern Yugolavia's approval.
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He already has Arbiter mask so...
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Actually, that was me, as a forum administrator. It's up to the Viceroy/Delegate/other Arbiters to handle things now.
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ahh... I didn't know if it was you or not
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