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Modern Pacific Alliance Treaty
Topic Started: Aug 22 2011, 06:51:56 PM (4,028 Views)
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Wow. Thank you all very much for the unanimous vote for the ratification of the treaty.

When TEP has officially declared its entry into the MPA, it may need another Magisterium vote or some kind of governmental appointment to determine who the two Eastern representatives will be. The alliance does not state how the representatives from each region are to be appointed, only that they must be appointed by the region's government. Therefore, it's entirely up to TEP to decide how to put them forth.

Once again, thank you, and may this ultimately be another step forward for every single one of the feeders.
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Wow. Thank you all very much for the unanimous vote for the ratification of the treaty.

When TEP has officially declared its entry into the MPA, it may need another Magisterium vote or some kind of governmental appointment to determine who the two Eastern representatives will be. The alliance does not state how the representatives from each region are to be appointed, only that they must be appointed by the region's government. Therefore, it's entirely up to TEP to decide how to put them forth.

Once again, thank you, and may this ultimately be another step forward for every single one of the feeders.

While I want clarification from the Viceroy first I believe this is an appointment of the Delegate. However the delegate may consult us, for we would be quite happy to lend our opinions.
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I must say, if I may?

You five have really been inspiring. Everyone has been present for voting and everyone seems to be working together. Not together as in always agree with one another, but together in that you all are willing to take different viewpoints, hash them out, and come to some consensus. I think this is exactly what was envisioned when the idea of a Magisterium was proposed all those years ago.

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Notice: I will be absent until Tuesday.
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Appointing the representatives is definitely going to be the Delegate's job, they're clearly in the same category as government/ambassador appointments.
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I must say, if I may?

You five have really been inspiring. Everyone has been present for voting and everyone seems to be working together. Not together as in always agree with one another, but together in that you all are willing to take different viewpoints, hash them out, and come to some consensus. I think this is exactly what was envisioned when the idea of a Magisterium was proposed all those years ago.

You guys rock ^______^

Thanks! We do our best. Besides, without us Magisters, well, people around here would have a lot of headaches. ;)

Also, it seems we have finished voting. Thus, as Provost I hereby approve the MPAT (That almost sounds like a standardized test doesn't?) as being ratified!
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Sep 3 2011, 04:23 PM
Appointing the representatives is definitely going to be the Delegate's job, they're clearly in the same category as government/ambassador appointments.

If this is the case, I will come up with two people to serve as representatives for this body.
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HUZZAH! Officially Ratified!
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I hope you don't mind that I organized and opened the forums, Todd.

The following link is to the MPA's Assembly forums:

http://z13.invisionfree.com/NS_Alliance/index.php?
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Just an update: TP has ratified the treaty and Krulltopia has appointed two representatives: Avakael, and myself. TSP is also considering the treaty, and some great ideas for the future of the MPA have been discussed.
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I wouldn't mind retiring my Magister-ness early if Todd wants me to be a rep, but I supPose I'm needed here more, huh?
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I wouldn't mind retiring my Magister-ness early if Todd wants me to be a rep, but I supPose I'm needed here more, huh?

Do you think we can do both as a Magister and a Representative?
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Not exactly sure how it would work, but I doubt you'd have to forfeit your current position. I couldn't see losing a Magister to gain a foreign representative being a net gain.

Todd should be picking reps at some point soon. Apparently there are far too many good options and the decision is a difficult one.
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Yes, magisters can also serve as representatives
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I was just saying it as a 'just in case' factor.
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If we could have three I would advise we go with the Viceroy, Provost, and Delegate serving as the three "heads" (though the first two serve more procedural positions) of the Branches of Government.
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If we could have three I would advise we go with the Viceroy, Provost, and Delegate serving as the three "heads" (though the first two serve more procedural positions) of the Branches of Government.

I agree with this
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I've decided to go with myself and Stateless for the first batch of representatives to this group. I might change out people, but I believe this will work well for the first run of this.
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If we could have three I would advise we go with the Viceroy, Provost, and Delegate serving as the three "heads" (though the first two serve more procedural positions) of the Branches of Government.

I agree with this

That sounds reasonable. I guess I can do this too.
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But we only get two... so that wouldn't work.
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haha, sorry, I read it as having them get together and 'choose' who it was =P
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@AMOM: Can non-Representatives join the forum to observe the debates of the MPA?
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Certainly.
Also, who is Provost/P-P-T?
The post listing you all doesn't say like it usually does.
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Alrighty, thanks. I approved your account on the MPA forum.
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I read over some of the earlier posts in this thread today; just want you all to know that I haven't forgotten some of the concerns expressed earlier and still plan to bring them up within the Assembly halls.

I'm wondering, though ... should I bring this Treaty back to the governments of each MPA region after I edit it for re-approval? I should have written something into the Treaty stating that the Assembly could modify it at will without it needing to be approved again as a different treaty (however all MPA regions must be notified when edits are made). I can add that in with a lot of other necessary edits, lobby the Assembly to approve them, then maybe bring them to all the governments so I don't have to worry about it again.

By the way, the Values have been amended:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/NS_Alliance/in...hp?showtopic=14
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