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New standing orders
Topic Started: Sep 20 2011, 07:32:23 PM (2,137 Views)
Kelssek
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Election of the Provost
1. (1) The Magisterium shall immediately act to appoint a Provost from among its members whenever the position is vacant.

(2) When the position has become vacant, a 48-hour period for nominations shall be held. The Magisterium shall then vote for a period of 72 hours and the candidate receiving the most votes shall be elected as Provost.

(3) A Magister may decline nomination for the position of Provost.

Deputy Provost
2. (1) The Provost shall name another Magister as Deputy Provost, who shall assume the Provost's duties temporarily in case the Provost is absent for more than 72 hours for any reason.

(2) The Deputy Provost may be removed and replaced by the Provost at any time.

Removal of the Provost
3. Any Magister may move for the removal of the Provost and upon another Magister seconding this motion, the Deputy Provost shall officiate a vote of a period of 72 hours. The Provost may then be removed by majority vote.

Absence of Provost and Deputy Provost
4. When both the Provost and Deputy Provost have been absent for a period exceeding 72 hours, the current active member of the Magisterium who has served as a Magister for the greatest number of terms shall assume the Provost's duties temporarily.

Legislative procedure
5. (1) Any Magister may propose a bill, resolution, or amendment to the Concordat and the Magisterium shall debate that proposal immediately.

(2) The Magisterium shall continue to debate that proposal until a Magister has motioned to vote and another Magister has seconded that motion.

(3) A Magister may motion to amend proposed legislation at any time during debate and if that motion receives a second, the Magisterium shall vote on the amendment for 48 hours, and if the motion receives majority support, the legislation shall stand amended as motioned, except if the author(s) of the legislation accept the amendment upon its proposal, in which case the legislation shall be amended as motioned without a vote.

(4) The same procedure shall be used for nominations by the Delegate as well as motions to overrule a Delegate's veto.

Voting
6. (1) When a motion to vote has been seconded in accordance with subsection 5(2), the Provost shall then officiate a voting period of not less than 72 hours and not more than 96 hours upon the motion.

(2) A motion shall pass if a majority of votes are in favour of it, notwithstanding any more stringent requirements set out by the Concordat for certain types of votes, and always subject to the presence of a quorum.

(2) When a vote has concluded, the Provost shall then proceed as provided by the Concordat, according to what the type of the vote was.

Quorum
7. (1) At least 2/3 of Magisters must have made their presence known during a vote, whether having voted for or against a motion or having declared their abstention from the vote, in order for a quorum to exist, and for the vote to therefore be effective for any exercise of the Magisterium's powers.

(2) In the case of a vote under section 9 to remove a Magister for reason of inactivity, any Magister who has not logged into their forum account for more than 72 hours may be excluded for the purposes of determining if a quorum exists for that vote.

Unanimous consent
8. (1) Where a Magister has made a motion on any procedural matter or suspension of procedural rules for the purposes of expediting the conduct of the Magisterium's business, the Provost may then choose to proceed accordingly, provided there is no objection within 72 hours of the motion being made.

(2) Under no circumstances shall this procedure of unanimous consent be used to pass legislation or exercise any of the Magisterium's powers.

Inactivity and removal
9. (1) The Provost may, from time to time, hold a roll call and require that Magisters respond within 72 hours to confirm their activity.

(2) Any Magister not responding to such a roll call may then be eligible to be suspended or removed by a majority vote of the active Magisters.

Closed session
10. A Magister may move that a matter be considered in closed session, and if the motion is seconded and a majority of votes are in favour of doing so, the Magisterium shall consider that matter in closed session.

Amendments
11. The Standing Orders shall be amended in the same manner as a legislative proposal.
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Kelssek
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Here is a proposed rewrite of the Magisterium's internal rules. Because this matter has been the subject of a Conclave proceeding, Arbiters are also invited to comment on this draft.
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SCKnightVulshain
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Looks good. I like it.
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Carondia
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I would perfer that the quorum be set at 1/2 of the Magisterium.

Also in 6(1) could we firmly set the time at 72 hours instead of either 72 or 96?
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Seems good to me too. :)
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I like :

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Quorum
7. (1) At least 2/3 of Magisters must have made their presence known during a vote, whether having voted for or against a motion or having declared their abstention from the vote, in order for a quorum to exist, and for the vote to therefore be effective for any exercise of the Magisterium's powers.

(2) In the case of a vote to remove a Magister for reason of inactivity, any Magister who has not logged into their forum account for more than 72 hours may be excluded for the purposes of determining if a quorum exists for that vote.


I'd also like to see the 72-96 hours kept. Long weekends do exist in RL. I know there are times I've not had access for that long and suspect the same holds true for others.
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Sep 21 2011, 07:25 PM
I would perfer that the quorum be set at 1/2 of the Magisterium.

1/2 the Magisterium is not majority, it seems, Kelssek is going for a majority of Magisters voting to make a quorum.

I would rather see it being 3/4 of the Magisterium (as expecting a full Magisterium to vote in all resolutions is naive), but at least 2/3 is something.

I like this proposal.
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2/3 was not entirely an arbitrary choice - it implies twice the number are present than are absent. That's why it's what you'd usually think of when the word "supermajority" is mentioned.

The Provost's role is to know when the rules should be varied to handle different situations, and when they shouldn't, hence my general erring on the side of the Provost's discretion, especially in procedural matters - notice in the unanimous consent section I said the Provost "may" instead of the Provost "must". In the same vein if the we've reached enough votes for a result by 72 hours it's more than reasonable for the Provost to end the vote, but if not they might want to give it a bit more time and perhaps prod anyone who hasn't made their presence known.
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Is wa
Sep 21 2011, 07:25 PM
I would perfer that the quorum be set at 1/2 of the Magisterium.

1/2 the Magisterium is not majority, it seems, Kelssek is going for a majority of Magisters voting to make a quorum.

I would rather see it being 3/4 of the Magisterium (as expecting a full Magisterium to vote in all resolutions is naive), but at least 2/3 is something.

I like this proposal.

In the case that we don't want exactly 1/2 quorum maybe we should say 51% instead.
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Sep 22 2011, 07:38 PM
In the case that we don't want exactly 1/2 quorum maybe we should say 51% instead.

This would make passing laws too simple, heck, why don't we just make Unanimous the requirement?

No, 2/3s is good, personally, I'd push for 3/4s
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Well, there are some pros and cons to 2/3 votes, but there are also pros and cons to using 3/4s. Personally, I would go with 2/3s.
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The compromise seems to be 2/3 between my 50% +1 and the 3/4.
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Because there is no size limit on Magisterium, there can be three or thirty Magisters. When the group is larger and a straggler or two are no show, it shouldn't stop the majority from working. When the group is small, making it 50% might not conform to a common sense definition of majority.

2/3 is a majority. 3/4 is stricter. Both are a majority no matter how many Magisters there are - and either would satisfy my personal concern that a minority of elected officials might run amok.
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I move for a vote.
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Motion to Vote.
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I second the motion to vote (unless Is wa's motion second's Kelssek's)
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Motions confirmed. Start your voting engines! NASCAR fan here :).
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YES
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Is that everyone? If so, then I hereby approve the new standing orders.
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