# \[PROPOSAL\] The Criminal Liability Act **URL:** \ **Category:** The Magisterium\ **Tags:** proposal, motioned\ **Created:** [December 30, 2023, 7:51pm UTC](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/t/proposal-the-criminal-liability-act/17606 "2023-12-30T19:51:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Vussul](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/85f322/32.png) [@Vussul](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/u/Vussul)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 7:51pm UTC](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/t/proposal-the-criminal-liability-act/17606/1 "2023-12-30T19:51:10Z")
> [@](#): > > SECTION I. CITATION > > …1.1. This Act shall be known and cited as the "Criminal Liability Act”. > > SECTION II. LIABILITY > > …2.1. Unless stated otherwise, all criminally liable offences shall require proof that the defendant had committed a voluntary action or a voluntary omission to act which resulted in the prohibited consequence before a conviction can occur. > > …2.2. Unless stated otherwise, all criminally liable offences shall require proof that the defendant had intended or acted recklessly to cause the prohibited consequence before a conviction can occur. > …2.2.1. Intent is when the defendant wanted to commit a prohibited consequence and acted or omitted to act so as to cause a prohibited consequence. > …2.2.2. Recklessness is when the defendant had acknowledged or should have been aware that their action or omission would risk causing a prohibited consequence. > > …2.3. A defendant can only be convicted if they have been proven to be liable beyond a reasonable doubt. > > SECTION III. DEFENCES > > …3.1. The defence of necessity is when the defendant had committed an offence with the intent to prevent a greater offence. > …3.1.1. The Conclave may, but is not required to, acquit a defendant on the defence of necessity. This is to provide some defences to crimes, such as arguing that it was a mistake or necessary. It is barebones to get the ball rolling. Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![Zukchiva](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/user_avatar/forum.theeastpacific.com/zukchiva/32/15649_2.png) [@Zukchiva](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/u/Zukchiva)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2024, 2:08am UTC](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/t/proposal-the-criminal-liability-act/17606/2 "2024-01-01T02:08:53Z")
I don’t mind this for indictable offenses, but for summary offenses I do think there has to be room for accidental violations as well - like endocap stuff. Unless this covers only indictable offenses, but that should probably made more explicit if so. I may have more thoughts later, I’m not reading into this too much rn. ---
**Author:** ![Vussul](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/85f322/32.png) [@Vussul](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/u/Vussul)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2024, 8:59am UTC](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/t/proposal-the-criminal-liability-act/17606/3 "2024-01-01T08:59:34Z")
Summary offences don’t require a conviction so it wouldn’t apply. It they appeal their punishment and the Conclave holds a trial, it would apply. This is how I read it at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/uploads/default/original/2X/c/c1fc1f63483989cc6a5c92e407789a95bd080bca.png) [@system](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 3:30am UTC](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/t/proposal-the-criminal-liability-act/17606/4 "2024-01-07T03:30:05Z")
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**Author:** ![Mangegneithe](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/user_avatar/forum.theeastpacific.com/mangegneithe/32/10609_2.png) [@Mangegneithe](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/u/Mangegneithe)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/t/proposal-the-criminal-liability-act/17606/5 "2024-01-09T18:43:38Z")
Is there a standard of proof? Like “more likely than not by a preponderance of the evidence” or “beyond a reasonable doubt”? Otherwise if it’s blurry how do we decide if it’s been proven? I think we need something like that. ---
**Author:** ![Vussul](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/85f322/32.png) [@Vussul](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/u/Vussul)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/t/proposal-the-criminal-liability-act/17606/6 "2024-01-09T19:24:16Z")
Added a small section saying this. ---
**Author:** ![Mangegneithe](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/user_avatar/forum.theeastpacific.com/mangegneithe/32/10609_2.png) [@Mangegneithe](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/u/Mangegneithe)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/t/proposal-the-criminal-liability-act/17606/7 "2024-01-09T20:46:23Z")
I suggest beyond **a** reasonable doubt, not **all** reasonable doubt. Cuz like, if we set the bar too high, we risk letting criminals walk. ---
**Author:** ![Vussul](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/85f322/32.png) [@Vussul](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/u/Vussul)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/t/proposal-the-criminal-liability-act/17606/8 "2024-01-10T17:06:58Z")
Motioned to vote. ---
**Author:** ![Mangegneithe](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/user_avatar/forum.theeastpacific.com/mangegneithe/32/10609_2.png) [@Mangegneithe](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/u/Mangegneithe)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 6:04pm UTC](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/t/proposal-the-criminal-liability-act/17606/9 "2024-01-10T18:04:48Z")
I second ---
**Author:** ![Vussul](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/85f322/32.png) [@Vussul](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/u/Vussul)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 10:10pm UTC](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/t/proposal-the-criminal-liability-act/17606/10 "2024-01-13T22:10:50Z")
I have acted in the stead of Provost Dremaur to open the vote [here](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/t/vote-the-criminal-liability-act/17654). ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/uploads/default/original/2X/c/c1fc1f63483989cc6a5c92e407789a95bd080bca.png) [@system](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 4:51am UTC](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/t/proposal-the-criminal-liability-act/17606/11 "2024-01-17T04:51:05Z")
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**Author:** ![system](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/uploads/default/original/2X/c/c1fc1f63483989cc6a5c92e407789a95bd080bca.png) [@system](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 5:06am UTC](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/t/proposal-the-criminal-liability-act/17606/12 "2024-01-22T05:06:52Z")
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**Author:** ![Vussul](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/85f322/32.png) [@Vussul](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/u/Vussul)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 9:56pm UTC](https://forum.theeastpacific.com/t/proposal-the-criminal-liability-act/17606/13 "2024-01-22T21:56:20Z")