Curia Rewrite and EPSA Act [Proposal + Bill][New]

The Magisterium
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It’s baaaaaack.

As I mentioned in October, such an amendment was long overdue, and still is. However, the lack of quorum defeated these proposals. This time, I’ve tried to make further changes as a result of the Curia Act amendment that was passed since the original iteration of the bill, but otherwise have kept it the same. If you’ve already read my old proposal+bill thread, 1.7 and 3.2.2.3 in the Curia Act are the only things not originally covered. Thus I present, without further ado…

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WHEREAS the Citizens of the region of the East Pacific, by its Concordat, have invested all executive authority in to the Delegate, as executor of the Concordat and all subsequent laws;

WHEREAS the Delegate may appoint Ministers to perform any of the duties of the Delegate;

WHEREAS the region of the East Pacific is a large, game-created region in need of an efficient and flexible executive branch;

WHEREAS the Delegate must be able and free to organize the executive in a flexible matter;

WHEREAS the executive branch and the The East Pacific benefit from a clear basic executive structure to ensure continuity and efficiency, enabling the Delegate in leading an efficient executive branch;

WHEREAS foreign affairs, internal affairs and military affairs form the essence of the executive tasks.

NOW THEREFORE, the Magisterium enacts as follows:

I. General Provisions - The Curia.

…1.1. This law may be cited as the Curia Act.
…1.2. Upon enactment of this Curia Act, the Curia is established. The Curia consists of the Delegate, the Regional Affairs Minister, the Overseeing Officer of EPSA, and the Foreign Affairs Minister.
…1.3. The Delegate can appoint any advisers to the Curia.
…1.4. The Curia shall be lead by the Delegate and coordinate the efforts of the executive.
…1.5. The Delegate, and any executive appointee thereto, shall be able to organize such executive ministries, departments and organizations as they see fit, notwithstanding the provisions of this Act.
…1.6. The Delegate retains the power to overrule any executive appointee’s decisions.
…1.7. The Regional Affairs Minister, the Overseeing Officer of EPSA, and the Foreign Affairs Minister can be removed by a two-thirds majority vote of the Magisterium for inactivity, high crimes, treason, or inability to perform his/her duties.
…1.8. For the purpose of this Act, “deputies” include Deputy Provost and any appointed person(s) who assumes the specific legal duties of Delegate during their absence.

II. Foreign Affairs.

…2.1. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs shall maintain relations with important regions at the Delegate’s instructions and advise the Delegate on all Foreign Affairs matters.
…2.2. The Delegate, the Foreign Affairs Minister and any other executive appointee for that purpose by the Delegate, are assigned the duties of administrating the Foreign Affairs Ministry.
…2.3. The authority to grant in-game embassies shall be at the discretion of the Delegate, or any executive appointee for that purpose by the Delegate.
…2.4. The authority to approve or deny requests for embassies on the East Pacific forums shall be at the discretion of the Delegate, or any executive appointee for that purpose by the Delegate.

III. The Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army.

…3.1. The Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army (EPSA), as this army is to be named, is permitted to execute defensive and/or offensive operations when at least one of the following conditions applies:
Condition I: The operation, sanctioned by the Delegate, safeguards and strengthens The East Pacific’s interests abroad and is not in breach of any legal obligations or treaties.
Condition II: It is mobilizing to secure the position of the Delegate or a designated second-in-command in The East Pacific or an allied region.
Condition III: The region in which the EPSA is mobilizing is occupied by or is being entered by a force with which The East Pacific is at war.
Condition IV: Those in control of the region in which the EPSA is mobilizing have permitted the EPSA to mobilize within their region.
Condition V: The region in which the EPSA is mobilizing is a warzone.
Condition VI : The operation prevents the region from being invaded or restores the original tags of a region after an earlier invasion, and is being held by EPSA for less than one update.

…3.2.Griefing Prohibition.

…3.2.1. It is forbidden for the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army to grief any region.
…3.2.2. “Griefing” shall be defined as intentional acts to destroy a region and its community by irreversible or hardly reversible actions such as, but not necessarily limited to: bans or ejections of native Nations, passwording a region, or refounding a region.
…3.2.3. The griefing prohibition set out herein shall not apply to regions displaying nazism, fascism or other such ideologies, regions with a history of griefing other regions, regions at war with The East Pacific or an ally of it, regions, that have or attempted to overthrow legitimate government of The East Pacific or damage its community,  Warzones which do not hold official relations with the East Pacific, or regions being liberated from raider control.

…3.3. Organization.

…3.3.1. The highest rank in the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army will be reserved for the Delegate, who will choose his/her own title. The Delegate will nominate a member to be the overseeing officer of the EPSA, title chosen by the appointee. The overseeing officer shall be the second in command at all times.
…3.3.2. Officers will be appointed by the overseeing officer and confirmed by the Delegate. They shall lead the specific missions.
…3.3.3.The overseeing officer shall be responsible for enlisting new members of the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army. The Delegate can always veto new enlistments.

…3.4. Officers must establish an official emblem for the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army which, should the Army occupy a hostile region or a warzone, will be used to replace/establish the occupied region’s flag.

…3.5. To hold rank in the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army, a nation must be a citizen of The East Pacific and pledge not to participate in any other military organizations. If a nation cannot meet these obligations, they can not hold rank in the East Pacific Sovereign Army. The Delegate reserves the right to veto any non citizen member nomination.

…3.6. No member of the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army will actively participate in foreign missions while participating in a mission with the EPSA, without first seeking permission from a commanding officer. Any member found doing so may be punished at the discretion of the Delegate or overseeing officer.

…3.7. If members of the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army are found to be incapable of conducting themselves appropriately within the Army, they are subject to demotion, suspension, and/or expulsion from the Army by the Delegate or the overseeing officer.

…3.8. Positions held within the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army will not conflict with any positions held within The East Pacific’s government, and involvement in the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army will not bar its members from participation in other regions and organizations (excluding the participation described in sections …3.5 and …3.6 and unless by law of these foreign regions and organizations).

…3.9. Citizens of The East Pacific will not lose their Citizenship if their nation leaves The East Pacific on the orders of the EPSA.

…3.10. Members of the EPSA will swear to uphold the traditions and honor of The East Pacific.

IV. Regional Affairs.

…4.1. Regional Affairs -  General Provisions.

…4.1.1.The Delegate, notwithstanding the provisions of this Act, shall be able to organize all regional ministries, departments and suborganizations of the executive branch as they see fit.
…4.1.2. Upon enactment of this Act, the function of the Minister of Regional Affairs shall be established.
…4.1.3. The Delegate and the Minister of Regional Affairs shall lead and coordinate the activities of the regional ministries, departments and suborganizations of the executive branch.
…4.1.4. The Delegate retains the power to overrule any executive appointee’s decisions.

…4.2. Eastern Pacific Police Service.

…4.2.1. The Eastern Pacific Police Service (EPPS) is hereby established, and its powers and responsibilities are hereby defined as:
(a) Protecting The East Pacific’s regional sovereignty.
(b) Conducting domestic and international intelligence operations.
(c) Collaborating with the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army on regional defense and intelligence operations.
(d) Acting as Compliance Officers as outlined in The Endorsement Cap Act.

…4.2.2. Command.
…4.2.2.1- The Eastern Pacific Police Service shall be overseen by the Viziers. Viziers shall elect among themselves a Commissioner to assume command of the EPPS.
…4.2.2.2- The Commissioner shall oversee and be responsible for all activities of the EPPS.
…4.2.2.3- The Commissioner may not serve concurrently as an Arbiter, the Delegate, the Provost, or any deputies of such that extend the authority of said positions as prescribed in Section 1.8.

…4.2.3. Structure
…4.2.3.1- The Commissioner may utilize any organizational structure which allows the EPPS to achieve the responsibilities in Section 4.2.1, and does not violate the Concordat or the laws of The East Pacific.
…4.2.3.2- Criteria for accepting and removing non-Vizier EPPS members are to be outlined by the Commissioner. All Viziers are automatically EPPS members for as long as they are Viziers.
…4.2.3.3- Members of EPPS are to be named and maintained in an in-game Dispatch by the Commissioner.

…4.2.4. Investigations.
…4.2.4.1.- The Viziers shall, as the primary in-game investigative service for The East Pacific, adhere to these restrictions:
(a) Properly investigate and procure any evidence of wrongdoing, and present sources in confidentiality when possible.
(b) Protect witnesses that have no direct connection to the aforementioned wrongdoing.
(c) Maintain confidentiality if all parties agree to such provisions.
(d) Present all finalized investigative reports generated by the EPPS to the Conclave by the Commissioner for further review.

…4.3. Education.

…4.3.1. The Delegate, or any executive appointee for that purpose by the Delegate, is assigned the duties of administrating the University.
…4.3.2The Delegate, or any such appointee, shall be able to organize The East Pacific University as they see fit.
…4.3.3Teachings, writings, or any other form of publication related to or posted in The East Pacific University will be protected by free speech as outlined in Artice F, Section 1) of the Concordat.
…4.3.4The East Pacific University will administer the Bachtendekuppen Memorial Library.

V. Repeals and Enactment.

…5.1. This bill repeals the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army Act, the Eastern Pacific Police Service Act, the Embassy Act, and the Fourth Education Act.
…5.2. This bill shall come into effect upon its signature by the Delegate or upon a Magisterium vote to override the Delegate’s veto of this bill.

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BE IT ENACTED by the Magisterium of the East Pacific:

SECTION I. GENERAL PROVISIONS

…1.1. This law may be cited as the Executive Act of 2021.
…1.2. Upon enactment of this Executive Act, the Cabinet is established. The Cabinet consists of the Delegate, the Regional Affairs Minister, the Foreign Affairs Minister, and any other position explicitly designed as such in relevant legislation or by delegate prerogative.
…1.3. The Cabinet shall be lead by the Delegate and coordinate the efforts of the executive.
…1.4. The Delegate, and any executive appointee thereto, shall be able to organize such executive ministries, departments and organizations as they see fit, notwithstanding the provisions of this Act.
…1.5. The Delegate retains the power to overrule any executive appointee’s decisions.
…1.6. The Regional Affairs Minister and the Foreign Affairs Minister can be removed by a two-thirds majority vote of the Magisterium for inactivity, high crimes, treason, or inability to perform their duties.
…1.7. For the purpose of this Act, “Deputies” are defined as any Deputy Provosts or any appointed person(s) who assume the specific legal duties of Delegate during their absence.

SECTION II. FOREIGN AFFAIRS

…2.1. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs shall maintain relations with foreign regions at the Delegate’s instructions and advise the Delegate on all Foreign Affairs matters.
…2.2. The Delegate, the Foreign Affairs Minister, and any other executive appointee for that purpose by the Delegate, are assigned the duties of administrating the Foreign Affairs Ministry.
…2.3. The authority to grant in-game embassies shall be at the discretion of the Delegate, or any executive appointee for that purpose by the Delegate.
…2.4. The authority to approve or deny requests for embassies on The East Pacific forums shall be at the discretion of the Delegate, or any executive appointee for that purpose by the Delegate.

SECTION III. REGIONAL AFFAIRS

…3.1. Regional Affairs -  General Provisions.

…3.1.1.The Delegate, subject to the provisions of this Act, shall be able to organize all regional ministries, departments and suborganizations of the executive branch as they see fit.
…3.1.2. Upon enactment of this Act, the function of the Minister of Regional Affairs shall be established.
…3.1.3. The Delegate and the Minister of Regional Affairs shall lead and coordinate the activities of the regional ministries, departments and suborganizations of the executive branch.
…3.1.4. The Delegate retains the power to overrule any executive appointee’s decisions.

…3.2. The Eastern Pacific Police Service.

…3.2.1. The Eastern Pacific Police Service (EPPS) is hereby established, and its powers and responsibilities are hereby defined as:
(a) Protecting The East Pacific’s regional sovereignty.
(b) Conducting domestic and international intelligence operations.
(c) Collaborating with the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army on regional defense and intelligence operations.
(d) Acting as Compliance Officers as outlined in The Endorsement Cap Act.

…3.2.2. Command.

…3.2.2.1. The Eastern Pacific Police Service shall be overseen by the Viziers. Viziers shall elect among themselves a Commissioner to assume command of the EPPS.
…3.2.2.2. The Commissioner shall oversee and be responsible for all activities of the EPPS.
…3.2.2.3. The Commissioner may not serve concurrently as an Arbiter, the Delegate, the Provost, or any Deputies of such, as prescribed in Clause 1.7 of this Act.

…3.2.3. Structure.

…3.2.3.1. The Commissioner may utilize any organizational structure which allows the EPPS to achieve the responsibilities in Section 4.2.1, and does not violate the Concordat or the laws of The East Pacific.
…3.2.3.2. Criteria for accepting and removing non-Vizier EPPS members are to be outlined by the Commissioner. All Viziers are automatically EPPS members for as long as they are Viziers.
…3.2.3.3. Members of EPPS are to be named and maintained in an in-game Dispatch by the Commissioner.

…3.2.4. Investigations.

…3.2.4.1. The Viziers shall, as the primary in-game investigative service for The East Pacific, adhere to these restrictions:
(a) Properly investigate and procure any evidence of wrongdoing, and present sources in confidentiality when possible.
(b) Protect witnesses that have no direct connection to the aforementioned wrongdoing.
(c) Maintain confidentiality if all parties agree to such provisions.
(d) Present all finalized investigative reports generated by the EPPS to the Conclave by the Commissioner for further review.

…3.3. Education.

…3.3.1. The Delegate, or any executive appointee for that purpose by the Delegate, is assigned the duties of administrating the University.
…3.3.2. The Delegate, or any such appointee, shall be able to organize The East Pacific University as they see fit.
…3.3.3. Teachings, writings, or any other form of publication related to or posted in The East Pacific University will be protected by free speech.
…3.3.4. The East Pacific University will administer the Bachtendekuppen Memorial Library.

SECTION IV. REPEALS

…4.1. Upon enactment of this bill via due process of law, the Curia Act shall be repealed.

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  • Removes the complex preamble, which is equivalent to a findings section in that it does nothing real and just takes up space

  • Cleans up the formatting a little bit, turning stuff like “I. General Provisions - The Curia.” into “SECTION I. GENERAL PROVISIONS”. This fits more with modern laws.

  • Removed the OO from the Curia and removed the clause allowing the Delegate to appoint advisors, instead adding that the Curia would be the FA minister, RA Minister, “and any other position explicitly designed as such in relevant legislation or Executive Order”. This allows the delegate to appoint more ppl to the Curia, while removing extra wording and making way for a clause in my new EPSA act that adds the OO to the Curia.

  • Removed the OO from 1.6 and turned “he/she” into “they”.

  • Changed “important regions” to say “foreign regions” in 2.1 because it just makes more sense.

  • Completely took out Section 3, to make way for the new EPSA Act.

  • Removed the “Repeals and Enactment” section, due to redundancy.

  • Removed the reference to the Concordat in 3.3.3 since the reference doesn’t match up with the current concordat.

  • Renumbered each section accordingly.

  • Light grammar and typo fixes.

  • Changes Curia to Cabinet and names the Act “The Executive Act”.

  • Removes mention of Executive Order, replacing it with “delegate prerogative.”

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Note that I didn’t touch the EPPS part because I am not well versed in that regard yet and wish to leave it to the more educated, be it another Citizen or future me. I barely touched the Education part too, but due to the revitalization and restructuring of UTEP, I’d like to point out that it could be beneficial to review this part of the Act in the near future.

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BE IT ENACTED by the Magisterium of The East Pacific:

SECTION I. GENERAL PROVISIONS

…1.1. This law may be cited as The Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army Act of 2021.

…1.2. Upon enactment of this Act, The Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army shall be considered the sole legitimate military of the government of The East Pacific.

…1.3. Upon enactment of this Act, the Overseeing Officer shall be admitted into the Cabinet of The East Pacific, as defined by the Executive Act.

…1.4. The Delegate, the Overseeing Officer, and any executive appointee thereto, shall be able to organize the East Pacific Sovereign Army as they see fit, subject to the provisions of this Act.
…1.4.1. The Delegate retains the power to overrule the Overseeing Officer or any executive appointee’s decisions.

…1.5. The Overseeing Officer can be removed by a two-thirds majority vote of the Magisterium for inactivity, high crimes, treason, or inability to perform their duties.

SECTION II. OPERATIONS

…2.1. The Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army (EPSA) is permitted to execute defensive and/or offensive operations sanctioned by the Delegate, the Overseeing Officer, or any executive appointee thereto, subject to the provisions of this Act.

…2.2. It is forbidden for the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army to grief any region.
…2.2.2. “Griefing” shall be defined as intentional acts to destroy a region and/or its community by irreversible or hardly reversible actions such as, but not necessarily limited to: bans or ejections of native nations, passwording a region, or refounding a region.
…2.2.3. The griefing prohibition set out herein shall not apply to regions displaying nazism, fascism or other such ideologies, regions with a history of griefing other regions, regions at war with The East Pacific or an ally of it, regions that have or attempted to overthrow legitimate government of The East Pacific or damage its community, Warzones which do not hold official relations with the East Pacific, or regions being liberated from raider control.

…2.3. Should the East Pacific be required to fulfill a treaty obligation, the Army shall mobilize to fulfill the obligations. This mission shall take priority over any other on-going mission.

…2.4. Should the Magisterium of The East Pacific pass a declaration of war, the Delegate may order mobilization to fulfill the obligations of the Declaration.

SECTION III. OFFICERS

…3.1. The highest rank in the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army will be reserved for the Delegate, who will choose their own title. The Delegate will appoint a member to be the Overseeing Officer of the EPSA, title chosen by the appointee. The Overseeing Officer shall be the second in command at all times.

…3.2. Officers will be appointed by the Overseeing Officer and confirmed by the Delegate, title chosen by the Delegate or the Overseeing Officer. They shall lead specific operations.

…3.3.The Overseeing Officer or any executive appointee thereto shall be responsible for enlisting new members of the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army. The Delegate can always veto new enlistments.

…3.4. Officers must establish an official emblem for the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army which, should the Army occupy a hostile region or a warzone, can be used to replace/establish the occupied region’s flag, at the prerogative of the Overseeing Officer or an executive appointee thereto.

SECTION IV. SOLDIERS

…4.1. To hold rank in the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army, a nation must be a citizen of The East Pacific, must pledge not to participate in any other military organizations, and must pledge to uphold the traditions and honor of The East Pacific. If a nation cannot meet these obligations, they can not hold rank in the East Pacific Sovereign Army.

…4.2 No member of the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army will actively participate in foreign missions while participating in a mission with the EPSA, without first seeking permission from a commanding officer. Any member found doing so may be punished at the discretion of the Delegate or Overseeing Officer.

…4.3. If members of the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army are found to be incapable of conducting themselves appropriately within the Army, they are subject to demotion, suspension, and/or expulsion from the Army by the Delegate or the Overseeing Officer.

…4.4. Positions held within the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army will not conflict with any positions held within The East Pacific’s government, and involvement in the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army will not bar its members from participation in other regions and organizations (excluding the participation described in sections 4.1 and 4.2 and unless by law of these foreign regions and organizations).

…4.5. Citizens of The East Pacific will not lose their Citizenship if their nation leaves The East Pacific on the orders of the EPSA.

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  • Since it’s its own act, the Curia Act is not so thicc and complicated, and the EPSA is done justice as its own law.

  • I added a clause that names the EPSA as the sole legitimate military of TEP’s government. This is something that others have suggested before but has never been brought before the Magisterium.

  • I removed the conditions for EPSA operations so as to further establish its unaligned ideology. This is something others have suggested before but has never been brought before the Magisterium.

  • I changed the wording a bit so as to officially allow the Overseeing Officer to be able to choose the titles of officers.

  • EPSA is now subject to treaties.

  • EPSA isn’t forced to only use the official flag in ops.

  • EPSA is allowed to mobilize on the orders of the Delegate during war.

  • Made the capitalization of Overseeing Officer consistent.

  • Removed the redundancy of the repeated clause allowing Delegate to veto enlistments. Now it only says it once.

  • Replaced the “Nomination” wording related to the Overseeing Officer as a consequence of the old system to “Appointment” wording relating to the current system.

  • Light grammar and typo fixes.

  • Referred to the Curia Act as the Executive Act in accordance with the changed name, and referred to the Curia as the Cabinet.

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Note that I didn’t touch the griefing prohibitions. If people want to remove them, I believe it should be done in a separate amendment so as to not distract from the real purpose of this one.

So that’s it. These are in the same thread because they go hand in hand, but because they are two separate proposals each shall be voted on individually. If you vote for one, it might be best to vote for the other, and if you vote against one, it might be best to vote against the other, to prevent unnecessary holes in our laws. Feel free to propose further changes, although this current iteration is the result of nearly a month of debate, so I don’t expect too much changes. Thank you for your time.

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Some minor clean up comments:

In the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army Act:

1.  Sometime Overseeing Officer is styled overseeing officer - Capitalisation inconsistency e.g. 3.1
2.  In 4.1 this is redundant as it is already in 3.3 ‘The Delegate reserves the right to veto any non-citizen member nomination.’  Are both needed?
3.  In 2.2.2 ’ destroy a region and its community’ could be ’ destroy a region and/or its community’? Also should ‘Nations’ be capitalised?

In Curia:

  1. Typo in 1.4 - ‘… as they see fit, s the provisions…’

Some philosophical questions for Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army Act:

  1. In 3.1 - ’ The Delegate will nominate a member to be the overseeing officer’ - must it be a member, or can the delegate nominate any citizen?
  2. As 3.1 mentions ‘nominate’ this implies that the nomination must be confirmed - is this intended?  If so, who confirms the nomination? As a side note comparable positions are ‘appointees’ in the Curia.
  3. There is no provision for the Delegate to remove the OO - is this intended?

Some philosophical questions for The Curia:

  1. In 1.2 ‘…and any other position explicitly designed as such…’ - should ‘designed’ be ‘designated’?
  2. There is no provision for the Delegate to remove appointees, is this intended?
  3. The definition of deputies in 1.7 seems odd/redundant when read in the context of 3.2.2.3, the only part that refers to deputies. If you are happy with it then the Deputies in 3.2.2.3 should probably be lowercase (or 1.7 should be uppercase).
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Clean Up

1.  In EPSA, Sometime Overseeing Officer is styled overseeing officer - Capitalisation inconsistency e.g. 3.1

This has been taken care of.

2.  In EPSA, 4.1 this is redundant as it is already in 3.3 ‘The Delegate reserves the right to veto any non-citizen member nomination.’  Are both needed?

No. I’ve kept it in 3.3 and removed it in 4.1, since 3.3 is all about how command does enlistment.

3.  In EPSA, 2.2.2 ’ destroy a region and its community’ could be ’ destroy a region and/or its community’? Also should ‘Nations’ be capitalised?

I see no reason for Nations to be capitalized. Both have been fixed.

  1. Typo in Curia, 1.4 - ‘… as they see fit, s the provisions…’

This has been taken care of.

EPSAA Questions

  1. In 3.1 - ’ The Delegate will nominate a member to be the overseeing officer’ - must it be a member, or can the delegate nominate any citizen?

I do not think it is wise to just nominate any citizen, since military experience is pretty much required to be able to do your job, and it has the extra screen of recruitment aka the 4.1 pledge.

  1. As 3.1 mentions ‘nominate’ this implies that the nomination must be confirmed - is this intended?  If so, who confirms the nomination? As a side note comparable positions are ‘appointees’ in the Curia.

It was intended as a part of the old system, where OOs are confirmed by the Magisterium, but they must have missed it while changing the system. I’ll change nominate to appoint.

  1. There is no provision for the Delegate to remove the OO - is this intended?

Probably as a result of the old system of Magisterium confirmation. See Curia Question 2 for why this is taken care of by turning it into an appointment.

Curia Questions

  1. In 1.2 ‘…and any other position explicitly designed as such…’ - should ‘designed’ be ‘designated’?

I would leave as such. “designated” isn’t specific enough, the “designated as such” means designated as part of the Curia, so it’s more specific.

  1. There is no provision for the Delegate to remove appointees, is this intended?

An appointee, by definition, is “a person to whom a job or role is assigned.” Thus, the one who appoints has the right to assign duties at will, aka replace the appointee. Saying that appointees serve at the pleasure of the Delegate is just unnecessary, since it’s implied by the nature of the word “appointee”, hence its common usage. At least that’s how I see it.

  1. The definition of deputies in 1.7 seems odd/redundant when read in the context of 3.2.2.3, the only part that refers to deputies. If you are happy with it then the Deputies in 3.2.2.3 should probably be lowercase (or 1.7 should be uppercase).

Deputies was capitalized because it is a position that’s explicitly described. If it were lowercase, it would not be any better or any worse, IMO, and it’s just more official.

The definition is not pointless, because it describes what deputies. For all we know, Deputies of the Delegate include Ministers, Deputy Ministers, and Advisors. An argument was even made to interpret it as Executive Staff. This was its own amendment to the Curia not too long ago, actually, not something of my own design, but I completely agree with it, as did the Magisterium, since 21/22 voting Magisters were in favor.

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I have the following remarks/questions:

In section 1.4, you changed it to “in accordance with …”, from “notwithstanding …”,  " - the provisions of this Act". But could violate the Concordat, as the Magisterium can not limit how the Executive organizes itself - meaning that the Magisteirum can legislate certain stuff, but not say that everything else must be according to the Curia Act.

The same goes for section 3.1.1.

In 1.7, why does that say “deputy provosts”? This act is about the Executive only.

In 4.1, don’t you need to specify that the acts, repealed by the Curia Act, stay that way?

The wording “Curia” isn’t actually used by the Executive. Would it be an idea to use “Directorate”, like in the past, or just the “Cabinet” or something?

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Directorate, please. Sounds so much cooler and has historical connotations \o/

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I have the following remarks/questions:

In section 1.4, you changed it to “in accordance with …”, from “notwithstanding …”,  " - the provisions of this Act". But could violate the Concordat, as the Magisterium can not limit how the Executive organizes itself - meaning that the Magisteirum can legislate certain stuff, but not say that everything else must be according to the Curia Act.

The same goes for section 3.1.1.

In 1.7, why does that say “deputy provosts”? This act is about the Executive only.

In 4.1, don’t you need to specify that the acts, repealed by the Curia Act, stay that way?

The wording “Curia” isn’t actually used by the Executive. Would it be an idea to use “Directorate”, like in the past, or just the “Cabinet” or something?

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“In section 1.4, you changed it to “in accordance with …”, from “notwithstanding …”,  " - the provisions of this Act". But could violate the Concordat, as the Magisterium can not limit how the Executive organizes itself - meaning that the Magisteirum can legislate certain stuff, but not say that everything else must be according to the Curia Act.”

I didn’t realize that was a result of the wording change, I’ll put it back.

“In 1.7, why does that say “deputy provosts”? This act is about the Executive only.”

The current Curia Act does the same because the Magisterium previously agreed that the Commissioner of the EPPS should not subsequently serve as Provost, Delegate, Deputy Provost, or some form of “Vice Delegate”. This is to prevent pluralism within the government and a conflict of interest, as with the similar provisions for other high offices.

“In 4.1, don’t you need to specify that the acts, repealed by the Curia Act, stay that way?”

I don’t think so. I’m pretty sure once an act is repealed, it cannot be reinstated by amending the act that repealed it. I just saw it as extra words with no real purpose, but if it actually does reinstate the repealed laws then I’ll add it back in.

“The wording “Curia” isn’t actually used by the Executive. Would it be an idea to use “Directorate”, like in the past, or just the “Cabinet” or something?”

Good idea. Curia and Directorate are both too fancy, though, even if historically viable. I would just go with “Cabinet”.

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NOTICE: I changed 1.4 back to “notwithstanding”, I renamed “Curia Act of 2020” to “Executive Act of 2021”, and I renamed the Curia to the Cabinet.

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In my understanding, a “repeal clause” utilized in Lerasi’s bill is similar to a repeal motion. Once passed, the bill is repealed, no matter what happens to the clause that officially repealed the former law.

IMO, I would recommend amending 1.3 of the EPSA bill you have to remove the cross-reference to the ESA, as it is possible that the ESA can get a name change in the future. Less cross references=better. You could just include “overseeing officer” as one of the positions listed in the ESA, as OO is a pretty well defined position.

Would also remove “Executive Orders” and just say “at the allowance of the Delegate” as legally XOs are not a thing outside of the Public Disclosure Act (and I would recommend one day removing XOs from that as well), because not all Delegates use XOs. Fedele didn’t, Marrabuk didn’t, Libertanny didn’t, future Delegates may not.

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I’ll remove the XOs thing in like an hour but I still don’t understand what you mean about ESA - I asked you in discord not too long ago.

Also, I’m still waiting on Bach’s response to my reply, so we can get this dude to vote soon.

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Oh I didn’t realize you still needed a reply from me. After your edits/reply, I have no further comments. Thanks.

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I hereby motion these two bills to vote.

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Seconded