On 21st January 2024, EPPS Officer Evan asked in the magisterium channel of the Official TEP Discord if they would be able to take the Oath for the Magisterium on behalf of the Xebi System.
The SoM merely states that the Magister’s Pledge needs to be recited. Considering the Magister’s Pledge isn’t really defined anywhere, it’d be up to the provost on what constitutes this Pledge and how it should be properly recited.
I’m pretty much fine if Evan wishes to acknowledge the broader system they’re a part of, but the ultimate decision is in the Provost (unless this goes to Conclave ig, which >_> it shouldn’t lol, it’s not a big deal if the system is acknowledged in the Oath so I don’t see why the Provost wouldn’t allow it, but if it comes to it the Conclave can overrule the provost’s decision.)
My question to the Conclave at Large is if One member of the system can take an Oath for the whole system, or would the whole system have to take the oath individually?
This is a really broad question because Oaths can have varying degrees of legality depending on what’s instituting an oath and what constitutes reciting that oath. To the point that I think it’s kinda unanswerable as it would depend on a case-by-case basis. But in situations in which an oath is vaguely required for an application but there is no requirement on how to preform it, then logically it’s up to the official debating the application on whether to accept it on the grounds of proper recitation (as not reciting the oath properly is akin to not doing it). And the Conclave can always overrule if needed. And afaik our two “oath” like things - the Magister’s Pledge and the requirement to ratify the Concordat for citizenship - match this type of legal standard.