[AMENDMENT] Viziers only get the Delegacy if the Delegate ain't delegatin' - RO Act

[Zukchiva]

SECTION II. GENERAL DEFINITIONS

…2.1- For the purposes of this act, the following are hereby defined as:
……2.1.1- “Delegate”- The legitimate Delegate or Acting Delegate of the East Pacific as defined by the Concordat.
…2.1.2- “In-game Delegate”- A nation who holds the in-game Delegate seat (“in-game Delegacy”) of the East Pacific region.

[…]

SECTION IV. THE DELEGATE

…4.1- By merit, the Delegate shall have all Powers as defined by this Act and shall hold the Position of “WA Delegate” shall be the in-game Delegate.

…4.2- A Delegate-Elect shall be given a Position with all Powers as defined by this Act until they assume whenever they are unable to hold the in-game Delegacy the Position of “WA Delegate”.

…4.3- When an individual who is not the current Delegate occupies the in-game Delegacy, Should the current Delegate not be elected for another term, they shall only use their Powers as in-game Delegate “WA-Delegate”upon the explicit instructions of the Delegate.-Elect
…4.3.1- However, in cases in which there is a military attack on the East Pacific region that is soon to occur or is on-going and the current Delegate cannot give said individual instructions on using the in-game Delegacy, the Praesidium may give instructions to the individual on using the in-game Delegacy’s powers in order to secure the region. Such instructions may only encompass actions the current Delegate can do legally.

…4.4- If deemed necessary, the Delegate may order a Vizier to assume the in-game Delegacy at any time (“ordered Vizier”); the Delegate may also retake the in-game Delegacy at any time. Non-Viziers cannot be ordered by the Delegate to assume the in-game Delegacy.

…4.5- Viziers who accidentally seize the in-game Delegacy without being ordered to do so by the Delegate shall work to restore the in-game Delegacy to the Delegate or to an ordered Vizier.

…4.6- In cases wherein the in-game Delegacy is being transitioned from an individual who has just concluded service as Delegate to the current Delegate or ordered Vizier, said individual may hold the in-game Delegacy until any Vizier (whether ordered to or not) or the Delegate takes the in-game Delegacy.

RO Act amendment to specify that only Viziers can be ordered to assume the in-game Delegacy.

[Altys]

doesnt that make the position of the outgoing delegate even more illegal than it already is

[Mangegneithe]

There is another amendment to address that.

[Mangegneithe]

I approve

[CyberiumShadow]

When it says “assume the Position of WA Delegate”, I presume that means the actual game-side WAD seat?

[Mangegneithe]

Question

What if Vizier accidentally gets the Delegacy?

I.e. if a Vizier isn’t ordered to take the Delegacy, and theoretically is not doing so with malicious intent (punishable under law and SOP), are they not allowed to hold the Delegacy? Say, if the Delegate forgets to endotart for a bit, or just isn’t endotarting as much, and the Vizier doesn’t realize?

[Mangegneithe]

Given JUST “Delegate” is the position in TEP law, there is no other valid interpretation of that phrase IMO.

[Halleyscomet08]

My vote on this is contingent on 4.3. Further clarification is needed as to know who “they” refers to. This is in order to know what the target of that clause refers to; as it stands it simply makes no sense.

Otherwise, the amendment seems alright. I had a few issues with the former wording which would be cleared up when 4.3 is made more clear.

[Zukchiva]

Hopefully I fixed the language a bit better. My argument here is that the Delegate isn’t ordering an out-going Delegate to hold the seat with this new language, but just that the law permits the out-going Delegate to hold the seat until a Vizier or the in-coming Delegate takes it over.

Fixed the other issues raised as well, hopefully.

[God-Emperor]

4.3 makes it so an individual who is not the current Delegate occupying the in-game Delegacy cannot exercise the powers legally required of the in-game Delegate or required to defend this region unless explicitly instructed to by a Delegate that may have lost the in-game Delegacy due to inactivity.

[Zukchiva]

If the Delegate falls inactive then I don’t think the in-game Delegate should be able to use the powers they obtain for everyday matters. The Delegate was elected to serve their position specifically in the in-game seat, so it doesn’t make sense to allow an unelected person to do as they please. The solution to an inactive Delegate should be to have a removal procceedure of them and then appoint an Acting Delegate - not grant an unelected official broad range to use powers they were not chosen to wield.

That being said, the security thing is a good point. I’ll try to make some changes in that front.

EDIT: changes made. thoughts?

[CyberiumShadow]

I don’t see any glaring issues with the current draft now.

[Zukchiva]

I motion this to vote.

[CyberiumShadow]

Seconded and Acknowledged.

Vote here: [A-2023-52] Amendment to the Regional Officers Act - Vizier Delegate Contingency