TEP History: Q&A

Gnidrah could not be ejected because of his influence level.

As for Loop being ejected. I’ve been doing some research and so far I can’t find anything to say yes or no. I’ll continue to look through the archives (which can be interesting finding and looking at old post lol ah the memories).

Was this region founded by someone? If yes who and why did it become a feeder?

This region was founded by Hitler the Great.
I’m think Max just decided that this should be a feeder.

At first only the Pacific was a feeder but the server didn’t agree with so many nations in one region. So obviously other people created other “pacific” regions and next thing you know Max is taking your land from you. :wink:

See full news post: NationStates | News

A bit late, but I’m interested in more information on the Empire and the Osiris Incident.

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The Empire had nothing to do with Osiris. We changed our names on IRC once, to our old Empire persona, for shock value and because half of us were drunk. Beware NS wiki – its facts are only as stable as the perspective of the person who wrote it. With that said, I’ll now have to have some words with the owner – thanks for pointing it out.

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On the Imperial questions: What is the Empires new name? - I also thought they didn’t exists anymore. Are they just splintered into there separate paths in NS or is there still some residue of the old Empire? or perhaps just under a different persona? (I’d be appreciative for any links made during there reign - history - who they are now)

Also, The Osiris incident, I wasn’t paying attention when that was going on. What was that all about (if explanation seems unimportant I would be appreciative of links)

Here’s the thread where I first became involved with the forum: http://theeastpacific.com/topic/983253/1/

It’s my naive approach to dealing with them, but it worked. The “Empire” set up their own forum when they took over. The links I have from that time no longer work.

Some other old threads from this forum: http://theeastpacific.com/topic/983117/1/, http://theeastpacific.com/topic/983160/1/, http://theeastpacific.com/topic/983128/1/, http://theeastpacific.com/topic/983061/1/, http://theeastpacific.com/topic/983063/1/, http://theeastpacific.com/topic/983071/1/, and http://theeastpacific.com/topic/983267/1/

(I’m sure there are many others.)

Others know the players and their puppets much better than I:

Biyah was Lord Rahl, and “Coffee and Crack” was one of his puppets.

Dalimar was Lady Anastasia and Chodean Kal is one of his puppets.

Neenee was Lady Phedre and some of her puppets are Minineenee and Minininjas

Lady Edea was Der Fuhrer Dyszel and served as Delegate of TEP, some time after the “Empire” stuff. See TEP is a forgiving place.

Papercuts & Skittles was part of the Empire and is now a Magister in TEP.

Lady Tisiphone was an especially noisy member of the Empire. (I called her Lady Megaphone.) I don’t think I know any of her other names or puppets, but she was an exceptionally loud liar.

Others probably have more detailed lists.

Another question to our slightly older members: did TEP ever sign the COPS-treaty? Cormac is ranting about it here (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=259595&start=175) but I can’t find any evidence of TEP actually discussing/signing this.

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Lady Tisiphone was an especially noisy member of the Empire. (I called her Lady Megaphone.) I don’t think I know any of her other names or puppets, but she was an exceptionally loud liar.

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are you being diplomatic?

I don’t think calling someone Lady Megaphone or a loud liar is particularly diplomatic. So, no.

Also, I do recall that you and I had an exchange where you suggested other names of empire members or their puppets. I did not include that information in this post, as it is really your story to tell, not mine. I only reported things that I learned during those times.

So, no, I don’t think I was especially diplomatic in any of this, just kind of blunt and straight-forward as is typical of my discussions about the empire.

Anyone know how Phedre managed to get enough endorsements to take over TEP?

I don’t think there was anything too exotic about it. Lady Phedre was a nation in The East Pacific collecting endorsements like many of us. There probably was an endorsement cap, but I was unaware of it. Gnidrah was an absentee delegate, so as Phedre was tarting and getting endorsements, he didn’t do anything or sound any alarms. Gnidrah wasn’t maintaining a high endorsement count because he wasn’t connecting with the new WA nations in the region. When Phedre and her allies were ready to take over, they had some friends who switched endorsements from Gnidrah to Phedre. They had other outsiders who came into the region and endorsed her to support her endorsement total. As soon as she became delegate, she sent messages to the nations telling them to endorse her and not believe the “lies” they would hear from the others. “She was an agent of change and was here to revive the region.”

As has been noted, I was not very active in regional stuff, so I only saw this from the periphery. It wasn’t until the “Purified Lands” forum appeared and Stagnationstan changed his motto to something like, “Throw out the invaders,” that I began to pay attention. I think I may have gotten a telegram from Phedre telling me that I had too many endorsements around that time.

As far as I know, the keys to their successful coup were patience and the inattention of Gnidrah. They were in the region for a while before they took over.

Post-Empire has the EP only had four delegates?

ASBS, Todd
DFD, Todd
Todd, AMOM
Todd, AMOM

I may be missing something because that only adds up to 48 months and we should be coming up to 60 months. Please englighten me :slight_smile:

I think this is correct:

ASBS (just a few days)
Todd 3 terms
DFD 1 term
South Allegheny 1 term
Todd 2 or 3 terms
AMOM 1 term
Todd 1 term
AMOM current term

http://forum.theeastpacific.com/single/?p=8042609&t=5213823

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Basic list that I put together a little while ago. Nothing fancy. Still under development. ASBS is more correct with the exact terms than what I put together.

Link updated:

Ignore

EM’s list is more complete. I was trying to identify those who were elected under the Concordat, but I didn’t search back through all of the delegate election threads.

My favorite story from the pre-empire days is the one around Lotlanthanderamore, who (I don’t know if this is true, but it is what I was told and I believe it to be accurate) asked Loop to take over as delegate for a few days and Lotlanthanderamore would return. Lotlanthanderamore was never seen again and Loop served as delegate for the next 1000 days or so.

Can anyone write a summary of what happened in TEP 2004-2006?

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Can anyone write a summary of what happened in TEP 2004-2006?

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I wasn’t there during that time in TEP. Though I do know there was a rather major delegate exchange when Loop handed the delegacy over to Gnidrah after sort of losing interest in the job. Gnid rode the delegacy until the Empire took the region over in August of 2008.

There are various archives on the government during this time period, but the government was no where near as active as it is today, at least as far as what one can glean from the posts during this period. Roleplaying was viewed as more important than government, and it shows based on the amount of posts located in roleplaying. That’s actually been the rule more than the exception in TEP - RP is a bit on a down trend recently.

Late response here, but my heyday was 2004-2007, so it’s my pleasure to remember.

1 Infinite Loop served as Delegate of the East Pacific from at least 2003 until 2006, when Gnidrah took the helm (until like 2008). Loop originally ruled under the Constitution of the East Pacific (which he wrote), but we developed a new Charter in 2005 (which Codex and I wrote). The East Pacific government was modeled off a constitutional monarchy. The Delegate served as the King/executive, executing powers granted to it by the Magisterial Assembly (the legislature), with an independent court interpreting the laws (I forget the court’s name, which is sad since I served on it). The regional government rarely did much of anything, though. Loop/Gnidrah did what was necessary to safeguard the region, the Magisterial Assembly granted those two whatever powers they desired to that end, and the court mostly just heard cases against spammers and those violating the endorsement cap (most of these individuals presenting no defense).

The East Pacific blossomed during this point, though, because of its roleplaying. I joined the region after roleplaying on the main forum for about a year, and I had a vision of a more close-nit, politically-oriented roleplaying community. Loop made me RP Moderator after just a couple weeks, and thanks to the commitment of folks like Loop, Packilvania, Codex, Wachovia, East Malyasia, Kelssek, Kandarin, and Krechzianko, the East Pacific soon became known as the roleplaying region. People would join the boards just to RP with us, despite having no association with the region. It was great – disorganized, confusing, and crazy, but great. Most of the activity in the region was indeed in the roleplaying forums – I don’t know how to summarize everything that happened there, but it was a lot. Wars, peaces, the University RPs – on any given day, there were usually 3-4 totally different stories going.

Anyways, I fell inactive in 2007/2008, and have only stopped by on occasion since then (I do like to brag that I played a role in writing the Concordat). But I look back on 2004-2006 as a really enjoyable period of time. We weren’t as active as now, from what I’m seeing – but we had a lot of fun.

If there is a strong demand, maybe I could try to look back, and put together a proper history. It’s been a decade now, so my memory is failing me a bit, heh. I do know we lost a lot of stuff when the invision servers crashed, so my ability to recover stuff will probably be limited.

Does “The Empire” still exist?