A United Citizenry Concordat

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Section 5) All Citizens that have registered their vote may vote in Delegate elections and Concordat referenda, excluding Citizens who gain or regain their Citizenship while said events are ongoing.

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The reason the part being removed was incorporated was so that we could legally prevent the practice of people turning up to vote out of the blue despite having lost Citizenship.

Removing that bit will make it illegal for us to deny such people the right to vote. So if a registered Citizen were to leave with their registered nation, they could come back at any time and vote. I would suggest restoring this suggested removal, or at least adding something that ensures that we can constitutionally prevent people from regaining registration or voting rights for the duration of an election if they suddenly return during said election.

I think we should include something into ES2 that gives the Praesidium the clear power to define the voter registration rules and requirements. Perhaps certified by the Conclave for oversight purposes.

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I prefer the alternative sections.

That being said, I would suggest adding explicit wording that allows the Magisterium to create laws on voter registration. As it is it currently implies that the Grand Vizier and the Praesidium has full control over how people can register to vote which I am completely against. They must be accountable to our laws.

Smth like “Section 2) The Praesidium led by the Grand Vizier shall administrate the voter registration process whilst following statutory law.”

I know some people here disagree with my interpretation but this exact issue came up when the Viceroy used to control Citizenship processes in 2019 which was worded similarly IIRC. If we don’t fix this it will most likely come up again sometime in the future.

Interesting thought. What’s the difference from the current process, “naturalization”, over a replacement term called “voter registration?” Whereas one doesn’t require specification and the other does?

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Well they’re different in a lot of ways :p. Relevant difference to what I stated is the Magisterium can legislate on naturalization, it cannot (per my interpretation at least) legislate voter registration if this proposal passes.

Here was the thread about naturalization: Discussion on Article E of the Concordat - Page 2 - The East Pacific - Tapatalk.

As a result we changed the definition of Nautralization to include “and has fulfilled any additional requirements for naturalization as may be codified into law”. We need a similar concept to carry on to voter registration so the Magisterium can legislate; ergo, what I suggested.

The main issue is that one could interpret the Grand Vizier’s ability to “oversee voter registration” as absolute and unlegislatable by the Magisterium, unless the Concordat specifically states the law must be followed in this instance.

As I said, people have disagreed with my interpretation on this. But I just don’t want to have a legal headache in the future and it doesn’t hurt to be a tad bit explicit.

So just add “…voter registration process as defined by law.” Seems like a easy and quick fix.

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So just add “…voter registration process as defined by law.” Seems like a easy and quick fix.

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That works owO

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We, the assembled Citizens Citizenry of The East Pacific, desiring a more prosperous and perfect region, do hereby gather to establish a New this Concordat of The East Pacific.

Article A: Executive

Section 1) This Concordat does hereby invest executive authority in a Delegate of The East Pacific and does appoint the Delegate the executor of this Concordat, subsequent laws passed by the Magisterium, and orders imposed by the Conclave.

Section 2) The Delegate shall be a Citizen elected for a term of four months by a majority vote of the Citizens that have registered their vote of The East Pacific.

Section 3) The Delegate shall eject and/or banish Nations from the Region who have committed a summary offense or have been sentenced as such for committing an indictable offense, by the Conclave, for the prescribed period of time.

Section 4) The Delegate shall represent The East Pacific to foreign entities as Head of State.

Section 5) The Delegate shall nominate Citizens to serve as the Praesidium and Arbiters and Viziers subject to confirmation by the Magisterium. Accordingly, the Delegate shall not serve concurrently as a Magister, Arbiter, or Vizier.

Section 6) The Delegate may appoint Ministers to advise on or perform any of the duties of the Delegate. As a limit, the Delegate may only order a Vizier to assume the full Delegacy. The Delegate may then retake the Delegacy at any time. Further, statutory apportionment of Regional Officer positions or powers shall take primacy over discretionary Minister appointments.

Section 7) An individual that has assumed the Delegacy through a means other than that provided for by this Concordat shall not be recognized by the Government as Delegate.

Article B: Legislative

Section 1) This Concordat does hereby invest legislative authority in a Magisterium, which shall enact legislation and maintain Standing Orders of the Magisterium.

Section 2) The induction or removal of a Citizen as Magister shall follow the methods prescribed in the Standing Orders. A Magister must be a Citizen.

Section 3) Magisters shall elect among themselves a Provost, as outlined in the Standing Orders. The Provost shall preside over the Magisterium, represent it to the Executive, the Praesidium and the Conclave, and keep a record of the laws of The East Pacific.

Section 4) Enactment, amendment, or repeal of legislation, and ratification of a treaty or declaration of war submitted by the Delegate shall be decided by majority vote.

Section 5) The Delegate may elect to, within ten days of passage in the Magisterium, veto an enactment, amendment, or repeal of legislation. A law can also be signed into immediate effect by the Delegate before expiry of the aforementioned ten-day period. The Magisterium may elect to override such a veto by a 3/4 vote.

Section 6) The Magisterium may confirm Arbiters nominated by the Delegate by a 2/3 vote.

Section 7) The Magisterium may confirm the Praesidium Viziers nominated by the Delegate by a 2/3 vote.

Section 8) The Magisterium may suspend the Delegate, a Vizier, or an Arbiter by a 2/3 vote for suspicion of indictable crimes or abuse of power. This suspension shall be considered an Indictment for the named offence or offences as prosecuted by the Provost. Suspension shall be lifted by any non-guilty decision of the Conclave or by majority vote of the Magisterium.

Section 9) If the Delegate is removed, resigns, or leaves office by other means, the Magisterium shall then select a Vizier as Acting Delegate until a new election for Delegate has been held.

Article C: Judicial

Section 1) This Concordat does hereby invest judicial power in the Conclave, which shall be the interpreter of this Concordat and the judge and jury of Citizens and appealing Residents.

Section 2) The Conclave shall be composed of four Arbiters, which shall not serve concurrently as the Delegate or as a Magister. In the final decisions of the Conclave, the total number of votes cast may not exceed 3, as determined by the Standing Orders of the Conclave.

Section 3) The Arbiters shall elect from amongst themselves a Viceroy who shall oversee the proceedings of the Conclave, administrate elections in the Region, and represent the Conclave to the Executive, the Magisterium, and the Praesidium, and the Delegate. The Viceroy shall submit election regulation changes to the Magisterium for majority approval.

Section 4) Arbiters are appointed for six month tenure, after which they shall retain their seat until a Member is nominated to replace them. An Arbiter may be reappointed when their term ends.

Section 5) The Conclave may rule on the actions of the Delegate or the Praesidium and nullify any which are contrary to this Concordat or statutory law. Furthermore, the Conclave may nullify any law passed by the Magisterium that is contrary to this Concordat. The Conclave is empowered to compel a legally required action by Order with any indictable penalty.

Section 6) The Conclave may rule on the actions of any Citizen to be in violation of this Concordat or of the indicted offences as prescribed by the laws of the Region and sentence those found guilty pursuant to statutory limits. Trials in the Conclave shall be in open session.

Section 7) The Conclave may remove a Vizier by 2/3 decision or a Magister by majority decision, for absence or high crimes.

Article D: The PraesidiumSecurity

Section 1) The Praesidium shall be invested the responsibilities of regional security, stability, and continuity of government. It shall be composed of Viziers. The Praesidium Viziers shall maintain a high level of endorsements in the region and serve for an indefinite period.

Section 2) The Praesidium shall be charged with removing from power any Delegate suspended by the Magisterium, guilty of a summary or indictable offence, or any individual that has illegally seized the Delegacy.

Section 3) The Praesidium shall elect from among themselves the Viziers a Grand Vizier, who shall preside over the Praesidium and represent it to the Magisterium, the Executive, and the Conclave. The Grand Vizier shall oversee the security of the region as determined by this Concordat and the Standing Orders of the Praesidium.

Section 4) The Praesidium may temporarily suspend the Delegate if 2/3 of the Praesidium via a 2/3 majority vote if it believes beyond a reasonable doubt that the Delegate has acted to destroy this Concordat or has committed an abuse of power. The temporary suspension must be confirmed within seventy-two hours by a decision of the Conclave. This suspension shall be considered an Indictment for High Treason or abuse of power as prosecuted by the PraesidiumGrand Vizier or designee. The suspension and Indictment shall be lifted by a non-guilty verdict of the Conclave, a 2/3 vote of the Praesidium, or a 4/5 vote of the Magisterium.

Section 5) Upon the suspension of a Delegate, the Vizier which replaces the Delegate shall become Acting Delegate for the remainder of the suspension, unless another Vizier is chosen as Acting Delegate by the Magisterium. A Vizier shall not be considered as serving concurrently as Delegate if serving as an Acting Delegate.

Article E: Citizenship and Residency

Section 1) A ResidentCitizen is a Nation residing within The East Pacific Region.

Section 2) A Citizen is a Resident that has ratified this Concordat and undertaken Naturalization as defined by law.

Section 3 2) The Praesidium, as led by the Grand Vizier, shall be charged with overseeing the naturalizationvoter registration process and maintaining a record of all Citizens.

Article F: Rights and Duties of Citizens and Residents

Section 1) Each Citizen shall be given a swift and impartial trial by the Conclave if an indictment is made against them. Additionally, any Citizen may appeal to the Conclave via trial on any government action taken against them. Citizens may not be banned or ejected for any reason not stated in law or this Concordat.

Section 2) Each Citizen shall not be tried twice for the same offence nor forced to self-incriminate. Citizens shall have the right of representation by adequate counsel to enforce these rights.

Section 3) Each Citizen shall be free to serve in any office in The East Pacific, as limited by World Assembly Membership and Concordat ratification requirements.

Section 4) Each Citizen may submit to the Magisterium a legislative proposal for public debate and Magisterium vote, excluding those which may only be proposed by a specific governmental entity as according to this Concordat or statutory law.

Section 5) All Citizens that have registered their vote may vote in Delegate elections and Concordat referenda, excluding Citizens who gain or regain their Citizenship while said events are ongoing.

Section 6) No title shall be granted which does not confer upon the holder practical responsibility in government, other than that of Citizen.

Section 7) Each ResidentCitizen may leave the Region freely. Citizens who leave the Region maywill have their citizenship removed andas according to law. Citizens who leave the Region shall surrender all governmental roles.

Section 8) Each non-Citizen Resident may appeal to the Conclave via hearing on any government action taken against them.

Section 9) No Resident may be banned or ejected from The East Pacific without just cause. The Conclave may reverse the ban of any Non-Citizen Resident with a 2/3 vote or hearing verdict, excluding those bans executed for criminal reasons. Bans of non-Citizen Residents executed for criminal reasons may only be reversed through hearing verdict.

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Article G: The Administration

Section 1) The off-site administration team, “the Administration”, shall be understood to be the administration team of The East Pacific’s forum as listed here: memberlist.php?mode=group&g=5.
Section 2) The Administration, and any moderation team or designated governmental officials appointed thereto, are those responsible for the technical maintenance of The East Pacific’s official Discord servers, forums, and other official services.

Section 3) This Concordat, nor any subsequent laws thereunder, provides the government of The East Pacific no authority over the Administration.

Section 4) Any ban, decided by the Administration in consensus for violations of the applicable rules of conduct related to the official off-site services, shall be considered a ban under the law for the same duration, and executed as such by the relevant regional authorities, without trial, hearing or appeal to the Conclave.

Article H: Regional Name and Emblem

Section 1) The official name of the government of The East Pacific shall be the “Confederated East Pacific”. “The Confederacy of The East Pacific” or “The Confederated States of The East Pacific” may be used interchangeably with The East Pacific’s official name.

Section 2) The regional symbol of The East Pacific shall be the Mason Compass (without the “G” inscribed in its center), and the regional colors shall be any variant of green and yellow.

Article I: Enactment and Amendment

Section 1) This Concordat recognizes itself as the descendant of the first concordat of The East Pacific, which took effect following a ratification vote of nations of The East Pacific, as overseen by the Elders. This Concordat repeals and replaces said elder concordat.

Section 2) The Magisterium may propose an amendment to this Concordat by a 2/3 vote; such an amendment must receive the support of 2/3 of those Citizens voting in a referendum administered by the Conclave.

Section 3) Amendments to the Concordat shall take effect immediately upon referendum close.

This seems to sum up everything we’ve been talking about these months. With all the issues I had about it solved, let’s wait for the other Magisters

  1. Articles A.5 and B.7 need “Praesidium” to be switched to “Vizier” or “Viziers”, whatever works there.
  2. Maybe keep the title of Article D as “Security”? I get that grammatically it makes sense to say “Praesidium” but it’s like naming Article B “Magisterium” and sounds weird. Doesn’t matter but just a nitpick ig :x

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Section 4) The Praesidium may temporarily suspend the Delegate via a 2/3 majority vote if it if 2/3 of the Praesidium believes beyond a reasonable doubt that the Delegate has acted to destroy this Concordat or has committed an abuse of power. The temporary suspension must be confirmed within seventy-two hours by a decision of the Conclave. This suspension shall be considered an Indictment for High Treason or abuse of power as prosecuted by the Grand VizierPraesidium or designee. The suspension and Indictment shall be lifted by a non-guilty verdict of the Conclave, a 2/3 vote of the Praesidium, or a 4/5 vote of the Magisterium.

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4. E.2 should state “The Praesidium, as led by the Grand Vizier, shall be …”. Aka insert “as” and some commas

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  1. Articles A.5 and B.7 need “Praesidium” to be switched to “Vizier” or “Viziers”, whatever works there.
  2. Maybe keep the title of Article D as “Security”? I get that grammatically it makes sense to say “Praesidium” but it’s like naming Article B “Magisterium” and sounds weird. Doesn’t matter but just a nitpick ig :x

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Section 4) The Praesidium may temporarily suspend the Delegate via a 2/3 majority vote if it if 2/3 of the Praesidium believes beyond a reasonable doubt that the Delegate has acted to destroy this Concordat or has committed an abuse of power. The temporary suspension must be confirmed within seventy-two hours by a decision of the Conclave. This suspension shall be considered an Indictment for High Treason or abuse of power as prosecuted by the Grand VizierPraesidium or designee. The suspension and Indictment shall be lifted by a non-guilty verdict of the Conclave, a 2/3 vote of the Praesidium, or a 4/5 vote of the Magisterium.

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4. E.2 should state “The Praesidium, as led by the Grand Vizier, shall be …”. Aka insert “as” and some commas

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  1. Articles A.5 and B.7 need “Praesidium” to be switched to “Vizier” or “Viziers”, whatever works there.
  2. Maybe keep the title of Article D as “Security”? I get that grammatically it makes sense to say “Praesidium” but it’s like naming Article B “Magisterium” and sounds weird. Doesn’t matter but just a nitpick ig :x

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Section 4) The Praesidium may temporarily suspend the Delegate via a 2/3 majority vote if it if 2/3 of the Praesidium believes beyond a reasonable doubt that the Delegate has acted to destroy this Concordat or has committed an abuse of power. The temporary suspension must be confirmed within seventy-two hours by a decision of the Conclave. This suspension shall be considered an Indictment for High Treason or abuse of power as prosecuted by the Grand VizierPraesidium or designee. The suspension and Indictment shall be lifted by a non-guilty verdict of the Conclave, a 2/3 vote of the Praesidium, or a 4/5 vote of the Magisterium.

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4. E.2 should state “The Praesidium, as led by the Grand Vizier, shall be …”. Aka insert “as” and some commas

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Looks good to me

If no one has anything to add, shall we get the party started? I guess this is the part I motion for a vote? And get a second?

I checked it over, besides a weird grammar portion that doesn’t really matter, looks fine. If anything pops up we can just fix it in my own consti amendment XD.

I second. Will put to vote shortly.

Only thing slightly bothering me is Article E, the new Section 2. It mentions “the voter registration process”. However, it is not clear what voter registration is meant, as (if I’m correct) there was no mention of a voter registration prior to this mention.

I’m presuming voter registration will have to be detailed in the election act or something.

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The process will need to be figured out. Hopefully a Vizier-Magister partnership in making a system that works for all parties involved. Unfortunately we really can’t pass or repeal anything until it actually becomes law. So I figure we’re going to have a transitional period.

I don’t see why the necessary preparations/drafts for that can’t be made already?

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I don’t see why the necessary preparations/drafts for that can’t be made already?

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What if it doesn’t pass and people wasted their time on something that would be pointless.

It seems to me the risk is minimal, and even then, there are worse things than being too prepared.

It is not a biggie, and it did not make me vote against the amendment. However, the problem I see is a possible abuse of this section. Any vote requiring voter registration, including any silly ones can now be demanded to be overseen by the Praesidium because “The Praesidium, as led by the Grand Vizier, shall be charged with overseeing the voter registration process”. That might have been prevented by specifying the Delegate elections and Concordat referenda in this section.

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It is not a biggie, and it did not make me vote against the amendment. However, the problem I see is a possible abuse of this section. Any vote requiring voter registration, including any silly ones can now be demanded to be overseen by the Praesidium because “The Praesidium, as led by the Grand Vizier, shall be charged with overseeing the voter registration process”. That might have been prevented by specifying the Delegate elections and Concordat referenda in this section.

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Voter registration is only linked to delegate elections and referenda voting.

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It seems to me the risk is minimal, and even then, there are worse things than being too prepared.

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Okie dokie. I’ll ping the Magisters to get some debate going.