Amendment to §1 of the Standing Orders of the Magisterium

Magisters, I bring to your attention the following amendment proposal to our Standing Orders:

…1.5. The Provost may deny any applicants convicted of any crime and applicants who have committed subversive acts in TEP or abroad.who:

…1.5.1. has resigned or been removed from the Magisterium within the same legislative session.

…1.5.2. has been convicted of any crime by the Conclave.

…1.5.3. has been determined by the Praesidium to be a security threat due to involvement in de-stabilizing or overthrowing the legitimate governments of foreign regions.

…1.6. Should the Provost or a Deputy Provost hold concerns over the trustworthiness of an applicant, they may open a vote to the entire Magisterium on the subject of admittance.

Now, certain parties might feel targeted by this proposal, however let me explain myself.

1.5.1 - A person who has resigned from the Magisterium, in my eyes, should not be so easily re-admitted. It just gives us, your Deputy Provosts and your Provost, extra work. If they’re gonna come back so soon, they probably should’ve just called a LOA.

1.5.2 and 1.5.3 - Of course, I kinda had to keep these in, however I decided to split them into their own lines to fit with the rest of the amendment.

1.6 - Replacement for the old 1.5.2 proposal

I don’t disagree with 5.1, 5.3, and 5.4, but “…1.5.2. …following a majority vote amongst the Deputy Provosts and the Provost.” could be very dangerous in a scenario where a foreign agent or autocratic renegade becomes Provost.

Do you have a suggestion to remedy it? It’s the best I could think of at the present time.

A similar mechanic I’d be less worried about would be allowing the Provost to initiate a vote of the entire Magisterium for a specific candidate, but this also has risks. If someone is a genuine, long-term WA citizen of TEP, I still think they should be a shoo-in; however, there remains the question of whether someone has parked their WA here transiently just so they can freely walk into the Magisterium, only to move their WA later…

1.3 already has a voting procedure, but it’s only if the applicant in question has only fulfilled 1.1 and not 1.2.

May I ask for a bit more elaboration?

Agree with 1.5.1, the only reason I can see for resigning and reapplying in a short period instead of taking a LOA is as a protest and since 1.5 is “may” not “must” I would assume that the Provost can choose not to exercise the right of denial if there was a good faith reason to resign.

1.5.2. I would prefer as being a majority of the full Magisterium, similar to a non-WA nation seeking admittance. I think any exclusionary right needs to be exercised by the entire body not just the leadership.

Nothing of value to add for 1.5.3 or 1.5.4

I’m not a magister, but as someone who did once serve as Provost and Deputy Provost for multiple Provosts, 1.5.2 is dangerous.

Scenario:

Evil Shadow gets elected Provost. I name evil AMOM, evil Aivintis, and evil Acronis as my Deputies. Since the 4 of us are close evil buddies in crime, we deny all applications of Magisters and start attrioning out the remaining members. Soon enough, our evil cabal has control of the Magisterium, which means control of who gets to be Vizier or Arbiter and even being able to remove the Delegate

Why are you leaking our signal group chat

AMOM did basically bring that concern up, and so far the consensus on a replacement would be to have it be a full Magisterium vote

I understand and agree with the idea, but I would much prefer if doubt about trustworthiness is folded into “subversive acts” and placed under the jurisdiction of the Praesidium. I also wouldn’t mind AMOM’s suggestion of kicking off a vote instead of immediately denying, but that’s just my two cents.

I will be honest here, I don’t really understand what a “subversive act” technically is, so I might need a bit of an explanation :stuck_out_tongue:

In the current definition, I believe it is meant to refer to attacks on legitimate government. I wouldn’t mind clarifying it though.

Please do, I’d like to be as informed as I can so that I can make changes if I need to

UPDATE:
Replaced 1.5.2 with a new 1.6 and adjusted the rest of 1.5 accordingly.

I’ve added my suggestions in blue (add) and orange (remove):

I like, updating now

One more thing. As I read this, it’s not clear whether section 1.6 (“concerns over the trustworthiness of an applicant”) is a separate thing from 1.5, or whether it points to the situations set out under 1.5.1 - 1.5.3?

It was originally 1.5.2, but following discussion here and on Discord (a comment made by Dremaur in the Office of the Provost channel), I figured I should put it in. However, I felt there was enough of a difference between it and 1.5 to warrant it being its own clause (1.5 covers aspects where the Provost or a Deputy may outright deny an applicant, while 1.6 puts it in the hands of the greater Magisterium.)

I couldn’t find a way to edit 1.3 since it’s basically the same thing but under different circumstances, otherwise I would have done so.

Alright, thanks for the clarification.

Of course! Glad to have been of service <3