Delegate
Prime Minister
Legislative (Magisterial Parliment)
Judiciary house
Secretary of State (charged with monitoring internal affairs and overseeing the office of recruitment)
Sounds pretty fair to me, though we should actually describe what we perceive the division of powers to be, though.
Rather than have a Sec of State, just let the PM appoint a cabinet. That way we can have recruitment/foreign affairs/or whatever is needed at the time. It’s a lot more flexible.
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Rather than have a Sec of State, just let the PM appoint a cabinet. That way we can have recruitment/foreign affairs/or whatever is needed at the time. It’s a lot more flexible.
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And thereby likely more efficient.
Exactly.
The division of government IMO should follow the American model of Separation of Powers:
Executive: PM/Delegate/Executive leader, Cabinet
Legislative: Legislature (name ?)
Judiciary: Judicial/appeals branch :ph43r:
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The division of government IMO should follow the American model of Separation of Powers:
Executive: PM/Delegate/Executive leader, Cabinet
Legislative: Legislature (name ?)
Judiciary: Judicial/appeals branch :ph43r:
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I’ve got to disagree, especially with Phedre’s situational actions. IF she stays as delegate, as she’ll likely be, she’ll have to be able to have powers, without having to delegate everything. The prime minister will be the figure elected to be her co-worker/direct counter, and the legislative and judicial branches will cancel out the other two, and likely each other.
Well with separation of powers comes Checks and balances. Each branch of government should be designed so that they check each other. No one branch should overpower the other two :ph43r:
Obviously, but making it follow the American model isn’t necessarily the best idea, in the end.
The modified Constitutional Monarchy-American model works in Hyrule 
But seriously I think what this division of Government can be clearly defined. In the current system, the Delegate could dissolve the (going to be) Prime Minister position for no reason. With a division the Delegate and the PM would have to share the executive and neither could just wave a magic stick and say “be gone.” I would assume the Delegate would act as the Chief of State and the PM would be Head of Government.
I believe that we should keep some of the core parts of the Confederacy such as the following: Attorney General, Ambassador General, and Viceroy (possibly a different title?)
Now on the American system, or that system, or this system of government…well we can do a mix of anything really. Personally I say we have an executive, legislative, and judicial just for simplicity basics in restructure since we have that currently; but if you want it to run really with the voice of the people, you can have an open legislature where all citizens can propose laws. <_< Then you technically only have two branches. 
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Bottom line is: we need something that will function smoothly, be efficient, and get organized in a short amount of time. Most of all something we can all agree on and be active in.
I think you can overstress the seperation of powers. This isn’t, at the end of the day, the real world and there is no point in trying to crowbar in a real world government. It doesn’t work and isn’t necessary.
The judicary is so infrequently used that if you have a totally seperate judicary from the legislative then those in the judicary will spend most of their time with nothing to do. And, of course, the judicary has to be appointed by someone, whether the legislative or the executive, so you don’t really gain much by seperating them out anyway. As for the executive/legislative split, I guess you can argue both ways, the parlimentary model works better in NS -IMO- but I don’t think there’s really a significant difference between the two in all practicality.
As far as the rest of the executive/cabinet goes, I favour leaving it down to the Prime Minister (who I would favour actually having the old title of “Grand Vizier”) to create/appoint whoever/whatever he wants. Of course, if we’re falling the parlimentary model there is no reason why certain positions couldn’t be codified seperately in law. Realistically the PM is likely to appoint a foreign affairs guy, immigration/recruitment dude, maybe defense/security. And yeah, I’d favour keeping the old titles for them but I don’t think that needs to be in the constitution/charter.
I am a real believer in democracy in NS. I know all the arguments against it - from game mechanics to speed of government, but I still believe in it because I see NS as primarily a political sim, and I think democracy makes for a better, more difficult game.
Any highschooler can play “king of the hill”, don a darth vader mask and issue orders. It takes skill and effort to persuade others to your viewpoint and win an argument. Simply, in the long run, it makes for a better game, and better players are likely to thrive in a democracy.
that being said, at this point in TEP’s life, where activity is low, I think the lighter the government structure the better. I think rather than borrowing from developed western democracies, a more tribal system would be better.
I would suggest a three-person eldership, delegate, foreign and domestic elders.
I would suggest that the rest of the citizens form a simple council, or Indaba, to discuss issues and to decide collectively regional policy, and to choose elders.
I would suggest that the elders are appointed for a finite period (3 months?) and that they indaba consider at the end of that period whether new elders should be appointed.
… and that is about it. I would keep the government structure as light as that, for the moment. In a few months time, when the region is more active, I would set about putting in a more developed system of government. trust me, I have seen many, many times in NS weak regions putting in an elaborate system of government, only to see it crash and burn under its own weight.
I would add, also, that a tribal system has never (afaik) been tried in NS. for a region as fond of roleplay as TEP, this should open up some possibilities, and would certainly make TEP distinctive.
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I am a real believer in democracy in NS. I know all the arguments against it - from game mechanics to speed of government, but I still believe in it because I see NS as primarily a political sim, and I think democracy makes for a better, more difficult game.
Any highschooler can play “king of the hill”, don a darth vader mask and issue orders. It takes skill and effort to persuade others to your viewpoint and win an argument. Simply, in the long run, it makes for a better game, and better players are likely to thrive in a democracy.
that being said, at this point in TEP’s life, where activity is low, I think the lighter the government structure the better. I think rather than borrowing from developed western democracies, a more tribal system would be better.
I would suggest a three-person eldership, delegate, foreign and domestic elders.
I would suggest that the rest of the citizens form a simple council, or Indaba, to discuss issues and to decide collectively regional policy, and to choose elders.
I would suggest that the elders are appointed for a finite period (3 months?) and that they indaba consider at the end of that period whether new elders should be appointed.
… and that is about it. I would keep the government structure as light as that, for the moment. In a few months time, when the region is more active, I would set about putting in a more developed system of government. trust me, I have seen many, many times in NS weak regions putting in an elaborate system of government, only to see it crash and burn under its own weight.
I would add, also, that a tribal system has never (afaik) been tried in NS. for a region as fond of roleplay as TEP, this should open up some possibilities, and would certainly make TEP distinctive.
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Well that is a neat idea,
Thank you
^^ Yes that was indeed a neat idea. :]
I like it, as well.
I approve it too.
I also agree.
I do see a lot of agreeness with Flems idea. I think it is just what we need, with our own modifications, because it looks light, efficient, and something we can establish in a relative short time.
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